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| I am sick of all this now to be honest, as if Christmas period wasn't bad enough. the silence is turning there own fans against them.
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| Think we need to refrain from jumping off the cliff just yet, we've a few weeks yet before we need to consider that.
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| Tweets from 'Show me the money'
Quote ShowMeTheMoneyUK @SMTMUK 2h2 hours ago
Something not right at a championship club giving letters out to there top players saying they don't know if there to be retained next year?'"
Quote ShowMeTheMoneyUK @SMTMUK 1h1 hour ago
How can you build a future if you don't retain your best players dosent make sense !! Rules state you need to put letter out but ??????'"
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| Is the visa fiasco making recruitment tricky? We haven't even managed to officially bring in the coach who was appointed. I'm surprised he hasn't buggered off back by now
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| Quote ="Anita Madigan"Is the visa fiasco making recruitment tricky? We haven't even managed to officially bring in the coach who was appointed. I'm surprised he hasn't buggered off back by now'"
Don't worry. Visa should be sorted out this week.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Tweets from 'Show me the money'
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2nd tweet is key bit imo. Its in rfl operational rules that we have to officially inform any players out of contract, who theres a chance we might not offer a contract to, in writing by 1st of may. Until we know which league we're in next year and whether were going to be full time or part time then we aren't in a position to offer contracts for next year. Don't we had any choice but to issue the letter to comply with the rules.
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| Well if that's true then it instantly blows clean out of the water the mad-sounding conspiracy theories that really, we don't have to bother this year, cos there's some secret deal between owners, RFL and Lord Lucan whereby we'll be safe.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Well if that's true then it instantly blows clean out of the water the mad-sounding conspiracy theories that really, we don't have to bother this year, cos there's some secret deal between owners, RFL and Lord Lucan whereby we'll be safe.'"
You forgot Shergar and the man on the grassy knoll
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| Talking of race horses... didn't anyone else see Marwan's tweet?
'When one door closes, another opens; but we often look so long at the closed door that we don't see the one which has opened for us?'
Time for the tin foil hat....combined with his rants about poor attendance it does make you wonder if he's thinking about pulling the relocation card?
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| Quote ="Scarey71"it does make you wonder if he's thinking about pulling the relocation card?'"
Relocating to Manchester wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for them. They've done all they can in Salford and still no bugger turns up, so I wouldn't blame them for abandoning that "city" in search of a new audience. Whether it will work or not is up for debate, but I could see the reasoning.
If the idea was to move to another city entirely (which has a club), like moving them to become the "Bradford Red Devils" and replacing the existing club in that city, it wouldn't work. I'm a Bradford Bulls fan and another club moving to the city isn't the same. You'd just lose the Salford fans who wouldn't travel, and you wouldn't gain new fans as that city already has a team that fans are loyal to, even if that team was to disappear. I use that as an example, not to suggest that is the actual plan. Relocation can only work if it's to a city that doesn't already have a team.
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| I think they would probably be bright enough to work that out,
They would probably just move to Bradford and become Bradford Bulls,
all they would be after is the fan base, and maybe develop Odsal...
If we had Salfords squad in Superleague turning out their performances 10k+ crowds would be easily achievable.
It is not very nice on the loyal Salford fans at all but Koukash is a business man and I don't think you could make the figures stack up with 2k crowds?
A rebrand as Manchester red devils would be another big gamble and would he be willing to gamble more cash on a Football city with two of the Biggest clubs in the UK / World?
Again though the sceptic in me tells me that there is no Cavalry arriving or millionaire backer and we are doomed to where we are for the foreseeable.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"Relocating to Manchester wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing for them. They've done all they can in Salford and still no bugger turns up, so I wouldn't blame them for abandoning that "city" in search of a new audience. Whether it will work or not is up for debate, but I could see the reasoning.
If the idea was to move to another city entirely (which has a club), like moving them to become the "Bradford Red Devils" and replacing the existing club in that city, it wouldn't work. I'm a Bradford Bulls fan and another club moving to the city isn't the same. You'd just lose the Salford fans who wouldn't travel, and you wouldn't gain new fans as that city already has a team that fans are loyal to, even if that team was to disappear. I use that as an example, not to suggest that is the actual plan. Relocation can only work if it's to a city that doesn't already have a team.'"
Million percent bang on the money is that. I find it ludicrous it has even been spoke about, look at the messes of gateshead/hull sheff/hudds we arent franchised american sports teams. Once again for me shows a lack of thought of the fans of the clubs who think of moving, them fans will be completely lost to the game
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| Quote ="thepimp007"Million percent bang on the money is that. I find it ludicrous it has even been spoke about, look at the messes of gateshead/hull sheff/hudds we arent franchised american sports teams. Once again for me shows a lack of thought of the fans of the clubs who think of moving, them fans will be completely lost to the game'"
You are of course right regarding loss of fans. However from the RFL point of view are they better losing 3k fans from a poorly supported SL club and moving them to a venue that have a history of good support on the back of success, or slowly let a large potential fanbase dwindle away because a club has a lack of financial backing. There is a lot of talk in athletics at the moment of 'the greater good', this may be a case in point within our sport.
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| I remember shortly before Cha-Lo were announced there was a piece in Danny Lockwood’s column in League Weekly where he said he’s spoken to Chalmers who’d said it would take years to turn Bradford around and going part time was highly likely.
Since they took over we’ve had rumours of Koukash being seen regularly up at Odsal and Chalmers saying to people off the record that he expects us in SL within 2 years. The former Salford Operations Manager Russ McFarlane is now fully ensconced at Odsal and seems a decent chap.
So what’s going on?
Up until Easter week we’ve done very well. Since then we’ve gone backwards. The rumour mill has gone into overdrive. It’s funny how adversity and a communication vacuum can spawn all kinds of rumour, e.g. going dual reg with Widnes, going part time etc. Meanwhile the visas still haven’t arrived, Chisholm’s signing has been held up, our best loan players have all been recalled and our kids are getting battered. Nothing positive has come out.
It could well be that this season doesn’t matter as we’re staying up regardless or it could be the opposite because we’re planning a part time future. If it looks like we’ve given up then attendances will fall. That’s harmful to the owners whatever their plan is. We’ll see how serious they are by the efforts put into strengthening the team in the next few weeks. Time’s running out.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"Tweets from 'Show me the money'
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Those sinister tweets were not aimed at Bradford.
It seems that there are a lot of scaremongers amongst the Bulls support base, who are believing everything they hear and getting swept away with it.
The letters the players recieve are the same letters that go out to all players at all clubs this week to state whether you will be keeping them or not.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Those sinister tweets were not aimed at Bradford.
It seems that there are a lot of scaremongers amongst the Bulls support base, who are believing everything they hear and getting swept away with it.
The letters the players recieve are the same letters that go out to all players at all clubs this week to state whether you will be keeping them or not.'"
Could very well be aimed at Hull KR if they don't go up.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Those sinister tweets were not aimed at Bradford.
It seems that there are a lot of scaremongers amongst the Bulls support base, who are believing everything they hear and getting swept away with it.
The letters the players recieve are the same letters that go out to all players at all clubs this week to state whether you will be keeping them or not.'"
Very very unprofessional of SMTM disgusting behaviour to try and publicly air a clubs business
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"
It seems that there are a lot of scaremongers amongst the Bulls support base, who are believing everything they hear and getting swept away with it.
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Do you understand why that is Mick?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Do you understand why that is Mick?'"
Yes, hence the question I asked Jasbir re: supporter disconnect.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled" who are believing everything they hear and getting swept away with it.
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The irony here is off the charts
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"Yes, hence the question I asked Jasbir re: supporter disconnect.'"
I listened. Think he needs to realise that there isn't a formal supporters group that can approach him. Facebook groups are informal and anyone can join. He needs to do the inviting not wait for an invitation from fans.
It'd be better if he and Chalmers and someone from the coaching staff decided to hold something. If nothing else they'd make a few quid in the bar because it'd be packed.
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| I'd tell him to put his (metaphorical?....) tin hat on though, just in case.
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| He doesn't need to attend. Just put his pic in a picture frame on the table. He saves time, and we get just as much info.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"He doesn't need to attend. Just put his pic in a picture frame on the table. He saves time, and we get just as much info.'"
Accompanied with prerecorded message ..Bet he would say 'why would you want me here to tell you something you wouldn't want to hear"
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Doesn't seem like the owners are bothered. As they are doing nothing, and also saying nothing.'"
Given the recent announcement, perhaps a slightly premature comment to make?
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