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| Quote ="Bullseye"Bombers was the nickname they should've gone with.'"
And was the one the fans voted to be the nickname of choice. Unfortunately, the man in charge at that time was a certain Nigel Wood
I don't particularly like the cat design at all, but our current mascot 'Hali-Cat' is popular with our younger fans so why not carry on the brand with the future generation in mind?
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| Quote ="Asim"I don't see the point in change for changes sake.'"
Which would be a fair standpoint from a person who didn't seem to criticise every outbreak of it without ever offering constructiv reasoning.
Progress requires change, experimentation, running the risk of ridicule, etc. Fax cocked it up pretty soundly in the marketing department back in 95 at the same time as the Leeds and Bradfords got it right, but this looks ok to me - a new look grounded in history, tradition, etc. Good luck to them as, like many on here, I would like them to succeed so we can play them again regularly.
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| Quote ="Block5Bull"Which would be a fair standpoint from a person who didn't seem to criticise every outbreak of it without ever offering constructiv reasoning.
Progress requires change, experimentation, running the risk of ridicule, etc. Fax cocked it up pretty soundly in the marketing department back in 95 at the same time as the Leeds and Bradfords got it right, but this looks ok to me - a new look grounded in history, tradition, etc. Good luck to them as, like many on here, I would like them to succeed so we can play them again regularly.'"
...is the right answer.
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| [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=399301Don't you... forget about me...[/url
Quote So what's the rationale behind the Bulls???? What connection do Bradford Steam Pigs have to a Bull pre 1996'"
Homage to Chicago, then one of the leading sports clubs in the world. Similar to why Leeds wear white FWIW.
As for Fax, they could go with the cat if they wanted but it seems they've fallen between two stools. I can understand a reluctance to go with 'Bombers', particularly since 7/7.
St Helens and Hull FC both have strong brands other than the name of their town - Saints; FC/Airlie Birds. Halifax... well, they purged Blue Sox with RLFC. But now Poppa clearly thinks the 'no nickname, town coat of arms badge' is lacking something. I think he should have had the courage of his convictions and given the club a motif that it can work with.
Our visitors seem to forget that even the much maligned 'Blue Sox' name was chanted as often as 'Halifax' while it was in service. Get the right name, embrace it with conviction and kick on. In the meantime just be grateful your chairman didn't name you after the team he supports.
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| The RFL vetoed Halifax Bombers as it was politically incorrect
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| Quote ="bentleyman"The RFL vetoed Halifax Bombers as it was politically incorrect'"
No they didn't. The Club did, and being 'politically' incorrect wasn't the consideration. It just seemed wrong.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"I wouldn't trust them to invent a nickname anyway. '"
And who invented your nickname? It wasn't you.
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| Quote ="af"[url=http://viewtopic.php?t=399301Don't you... forget about me...[/url
Homage to Chicago, then one of the leading sports clubs in the world. Similar to why Leeds wear white FWIW.
As for Fax, they could go with the cat if they wanted but it seems they've fallen between two stools. I can understand a reluctance to go with 'Bombers', particularly since 7/7.
St Helens and Hull FC both have strong brands other than the name of their town - Saints; FC/Airlie Birds. Halifax... well, they purged Blue Sox with RLFC. But now Poppa clearly thinks the 'no nickname, town coat of arms badge' is lacking something. I think he should have had the courage of his convictions and given the club a motif that it can work with.
Our visitors seem to forget that even the much maligned 'Blue Sox' name was chanted as often as 'Halifax' while it was in service. Get the right name, embrace it with conviction and kick on. In the meantime just be grateful your chairman didn't name you after the team he supports.
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And which team is this?
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| Quote ="a.n Other"And which team is this?'"
I'll give you a clue, most of the people who've run Halifax in the last ten years or so support them.
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| Quote ="af"In the meantime just be grateful your chairman didn't name you after the team he supports.
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Michael Steele has supported Halifax for many many many many years. If you're thinking about Mr Posner - he left ages ago. Do keep up
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| Quote ="littlerich"Michael Steele has supported Halifax for many many many many years. If you're thinking about Mr Posner - he left ages ago. Do keep up
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| Quote ="Officeboy"And who invented your nickname? It wasn't you.'"
Who decided to plump for adopting an emminently marketable nickname, ripe for exploitation in a myriad of merchandising opportunities? No not me that's true.
Not entirely sure what you have in mind with this conversation. The point is that we aped an American brand that had opportunities. Fax simply chose an iconic American brand that is entirely unmarketable outside of the States. Are you the one Fax fan that doesn't thing it was, dare I say it, "retarded" to call your club Blue Sox?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Michael Steele has supported Halifax for many many many many years. '"
Haven't heard him mention it.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"Are you the one Fax fan that doesn't thing it was, dare I say it, "retarded" to call your club Blue Sox?'"
But we wore socks. And they were blue. it seemed so plausible
Looking back i wish our club had gone down your route and copied entirely the blueprint laid down by Keighley Cougars. Great "vision" shown by your board - one which we should also have taken up.
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| Quote ="af"
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Who hell he?
A random Google image of someone called Michael Steele of the Republican party in the USA. Well done you.
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| Quote ="littlerich"But we wore socks. And they were blue. it seemed so plausible
Looking back i wish our club had gone down your route and copied entirely the blueprint laid down by Keighley Cougars. Great "vision" shown by your board - one which we should also have taken up.'"
The sarcasm isn't lost on me but I think you're wrong to suggest it wasn't visionary to copy a winning formula whether that be Keighley, Chicago or anyone else.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"The sarcasm isn't lost on me but I think you're wrong to suggest it wasn't visionary to copy a winning formula whether that be Keighley, Chicago or anyone else.'"
Actually - snide comment left aside - i was being genuine. Bradford's marketing is second to none and i would never be able to deny that without looking like a bitter knobsack.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Who hell he?
A random Google image of someone called Michael Steele of the Republican party in the USA. Well done you.
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Quote Looking back i wish our club had gone down your route and copied entirely the blueprint laid down by Keighley Cougars.'"
So should Fax pick up a new suffix now, then?
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| Quote ="littlerich"Actually - snide comment left aside - i was being genuine. Bradford's marketing was second to none and i would never be able to deny that without looking like a bitter knobsack.'"
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So should Fax pick up a new suffix now, then?'"
No. I think all attempts have been done like a dog's dinner - unless you Bull's fans can come up with any suggestions .................?
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| Quote ="littlerich"No. I think all attempts have been done like a dog's dinner - unless you Bull's fans can come up with any suggestions .................?
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| Now the Yanks would have no problem with calling you the Guillotines or the Hallers (short for Thrum Hallers) and would work with each of those. Just have a look at some of the names in the NBA and MBL. Both would pick up some opposition, but imagine the mascot you could have if you picked the latter.
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| Quote ="littlerich"No. I think all attempts have been done like a dog's dinner - unless you Bull's fans can come up with any suggestions .................?
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Well I DID suggest "Pink Panties" earlier...
When the suffixes were brought in, there were strong marketing reasons (and not entirely unrelated to the Superleague wars in Oz...) for it - not least trying to present the impression to the non-RL world that this was almost a new, bit-like-american-football game.
The strongest of the "brands" (Bulls, Whinos etc) have stuck, and the weakest have either disappeared (BlueSox, Sharks..) or are suffering a lingering death (Warriors...) whereas the likes of Stains and HKR never felt the need to adopt one and their judgment has proved sound.
As things stand now, I'd say that if there is no pressing need to adopt a suffix, and if the club already has a strong historic name (like Halifax) then why do it?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"As things stand now, I'd say that if there is no pressing need to adopt a suffix, and if the club already has a strong historic name (like Halifax) then why do it?'"
[url=http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=halifax+&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGIC_enGB282GB282Exhibit A[/url
[url=http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=halifax+rugby&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGIC_enGB282GB282Exhibit B[/url
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