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| While there’s a communication vacuum the rumour mill takes over. That’s not a good situation to be in. It’s alright the chairman saying that “we’ll speak to supporters groups” or “we’ll hold a forum if that’s what people want” he needs to get on and actually do it with Chalmers there.
If they don’t then more damaging rumours will follow. We’re down to the real hardcore following now so I’d hope they would recognise the value of keeping their most loyal customers on side.
As for the various rumours I’m taking them all with a pinch of salt. Neither scenario makes me particularly enthusiastic:
1. The club is in no danger of relegation as there will be a re-structure. But this means these games this season are meaningless.
2. The club is in danger of relegation but nobody is available to sign to strengthen the squad so watch the kids get stuffed every week and us go down.
If it’s scenario 1 and Koukash or whoever is ready to ride to our rescue on one of his white horses then great but I remain sceptical. I respect the poster who’s posted the rumours but I’d urge caution. We’ve been strung along before. If it’s scenario 2 then there probably won’t be a club for much longer. Going part time and being relegated would be the writing on the wall. While the attendance figures published by the club look healthy I do wonder about them sometimes. We’d be lucky to get 1k for games in the division below.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"If recent form is anything to go by. you may be waiting a while for that...'"
There hasn't really been anything to report though.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"
There's a lot of silly rumours going around at the minute.'"
Well, of course there are Mick. That's what you get when you create a vacuum; the void just attracts anything and everything to fill it. We need some proper communication from the owners and we needed a it weeks ago.
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| Also when we're winning the bad rumours don't tend to surface, when we're losing however....
The message for now seems to be that they know the team needs strengthening but nobody is available so as you were.
No wonder people are speculating on a re-oganisation of the divisions. Nothing else seems to be likely to save us.
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| I'll believe it when I see it on the Bulls Banter Facebook page.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Also when we're winning the bad rumours don't tend to surface, when we're losing however....
The message for now seems to be that they know the team needs strengthening but nobody is available so as you were.
No wonder people are speculating on a re-oganisation of the divisions. Nothing else seems to be likely to save us.'"
When we lose you have to look for a reason and it focuses on the fact that the people doing the business for us are players that we have on loan. As soon as they are called back you assume we are in for a hiding that week.
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| Beattie couldn't have made it plainer in his quote last week. There were some on here saying it was unfair on him to suggest he was criticising, but in fact, he was simply speaking the truth, stating that which is bleedin' obvious to maybe everyone but Cha-Lowe.
And that is, our gallant band of young kids can't compete over a season against battle-hardened experienced opposition. Whuppings were always 100% predictable, and these will only harm both the morale at the club, and the morale amongst the fans.
Doesn't seem like the owners are bothered. As they are doing nothing, and also saying nothing.
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| Just on the kids being burnt out, i couldn't help notice that Hodgson & Wilkinson both played in an U19s game a couple of days after both played in the Easter period. WTF was that about? they must have been absolutly drained. Also we had Hallas available, a fresh more experienced body and we didn't play him. Just seemed strange.
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| After some optimism a few weeks back we seem to be back where we were before the season began.
This isn't the way to manage our young talent. If I was a parent of one of our kids I'd be starting to get concerned. There's getting a chance and there's being put up as cannon fodder.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"After some optimism a few weeks back we seem to be back where we were before the season began.
This isn't the way to manage our young talent. If I was a parent of one of our kids I'd be starting to get concerned. There's getting a chance and there's being put up as cannon fodder.'"
I remember Paul Medley talking about something similar back when he was head of youth at Bradford. People were shouting for whatever superstar academy lad we had at the time to be picked more and he out and out said that you can't throw these lads in week in, week out, as all it does is burn them out and ruin them. It's only freaks like Sam Burgess that it will ever work with and all you'll get is players either injured or fed up and giving up the game.
Whilst people like John Bateman have come along since who I would argue falls in that Burgess category, there's only really the likes of Oakes and Bentley that look to me like they're at that level where they can play almost every week. But even Bentley will need a rest every now and again. The likes of Wilkinson & Hodgson should in an ideal situation only be playing a handful of games this year.
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| When Cha-Lo took over I was sceptical. Neither are particularly wealthy and have a chequered history in business and in RL administration.
If I didn't know any better I'd suspect they're just keeping the club alive on life support for the RFL. The current setup has all the hallmarks of being done on an absolute shoestring. There's no evidence of any strategy, just fire fighting and at the moment the flames are getting higher.
I said I'd judge them on their record. Well up to Easter we were doing ok with some useful use of the loan system. That seems to have gone out of the window now. We don't have much time to rescue things if we're staying up. I'd hoped we'd have planned for this and will have some useful players on board for this weekend.
We're entering the period where we'll know if they're serious or not.
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| I wonder if it's deliberate that there's almost no mention at all of the hammering Toulouse gave us on the website or social media?
The twitter doesn't even mention the result, it goes from Colton Roche saying he's looking forward to the game, to advertising the lottery and Sheffield tickets. Not even a mention that the game has actually been played.
Similarly, there's nothing at all listed in the news section of the website. You have to go into the Results section to even see that the game happened.
Perhaps they're trying to pretend it didn't, in the hope it won't put fans off coming to the next game or two?
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| A forlorn hope I think.
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| Tweet from ShowMeTheMoney agent
Something not right at a championship club giving letters out to their top players saying they don't know if they're to be retained next year?
Pretty obvious its us. Wonder how much longer the academy can survive too.
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If it's us it's because:
1. We may be relegated and have to go part time so giving notice.
2. We may be about to do a Gateshead and adopt Salford's entire playing staff along with their owner.
I know which I think is more likely ![Sad icon_sad.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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If it's us it's because:
1. We may be relegated and have to go part time so giving notice.
2. We may be about to do a Gateshead and adopt Salford's entire playing staff along with their owner.
I know which I think is more likely ![Sad icon_sad.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_sad.gif)
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| If that is the crack wtf is going on?
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Tweet from ShowMeTheMoney agent
Something not right at a championship club giving letters out to their top players saying they don't know if they're to be retained next year?
Pretty obvious its us. Wonder how much longer the academy can survive too.'"
Well, thinking about it, we probably don't have much choice.
If we are relegated then how can we possibly guarantee any current contracts?
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| At the start of the season I'd have predicted losing the last 3 games pretty badly, but with the loanees we got a sign of a brighter future.
It's the complete radio silence from the club on anything except fluff stories that's generating this extreme downer everyone is on, someone at the club must address this very soon with SOME information about what the new owners have discovered after being in charge for over 3 months. While accepting they can't be disclosing their business plans, any statement indicating the options they are looking at should be made. As Paul Walker said about the loss of emotional attachment to the club, I'm in the same boat, haven't seen a game since Sheffield and haven't missed it. It was good to see I wasn't alone in that feeling.
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| Quote ="Nothus"Well, thinking about it, we probably don't have much choice.
If we are relegated then how can we possibly guarantee any current contracts?'"
His Second tweet suggested the letter is something we have to do as a club, presumably to allow players to look elsewhere. It may just be a case of as Bullseye said if we're relegated we can't offer a new contract to anyone as we'd be PT so it may just be a formality. Maybe its a more dire situation.
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| They wouldn't need to inform them of that as all contracts would be null and void on been relegated..
do you think we are been patched over by Salford next year?
keep the academy and home grown players and bring in their first team for SL?
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| ever the optimist me..
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| Depends on what the letter says. We offered Smith a 2 year contract and Chisholm a deal just 2 weeks a go. What would be the point if we going PT anyway next year. Things won't have changed that much.
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| Once again nothing makes any sense..
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| Or here's an idea.
They have been told franchising is set to return so rather than waste money on a FT squad where finishing in the league is irrelevant. They fund a PT team making substantial savings. Become a reasonable championship team boosted by the farcical DR and invest the money in off-field stability to try and get into SL. Widnes were gash on the field and a bang average championship team, but they invested off-field and got into SL that way. Maybe thats the plan...
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Or here's an idea.
They have been told franchising is set to return so rather than waste money on a FT squad where finishing in the league is irrelevant. They fund a PT team making substantial savings. Become a reasonable championship team boosted by the farcical DR and invest the money in off-field stability to try and get into SL. Widnes were gash on the field and a bang average championship team, but they invested off-field and got into SL that way. Maybe thats the plan...'"
That wouldn't have been the plan from the outset when they took over though would it?
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