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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Why did the bulls have reduced funding?'"
Sky funding reduced by 2/3 over last 2 years
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| Quote ="dboy"And you conveniently ignore that you received that punishment for your previous mismanagement!
Twice in 2 years!
If, after admin 1, Bulls had addressed their business properly, admin 2 would not have happened.
You are reaping what you sowed.'"
I don't normally do this...but go to hell.
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| Quote ="dboy"And you conveniently ignore that you received that punishment for your previous mismanagement!
Twice in 2 years!
If, after admin 1, Bulls had addressed their business properly, admin 2 would not have happened.
You are reaping what you sowed.'"
Twice in 2 years true! But almost inevitable one would follow another without a sugar daddy and the threat of relegation, forcing you to push to the limit.
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| Quote ="dboy"And you conveniently ignore that you received that punishment for your previous mismanagement!
Twice in 2 years!
If, after admin 1, Bulls had addressed their business properly, admin 2 would not have happened.
You are reaping what you sowed.'"
Didn't cut the cloth did they?
Thou shalt not draw on the biggest expense and cut cost despite thou not being able to afford biggest expense. That's obviously the rfl's fault though
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| Quote ="Bullseye"What a mess. Now all the dirty linen is being done in public there's no way back for Moore & Co. The other investors the administrator saw were even less likely to take over than Moore so I really don't see any light at the end of the tunnel here.
While the weekend's game may go ahead we're back in admin and with no foreseeable new owners likely to come in I can only see eventual liquidation at the moment.
If that happens then that's me done with RL.
Looks like the London game could be emotional
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My sentiments exactly. This could be the final nail in the coffin for me and RL. If this is how it finishes I'm done. 20 + years, it's been a roller coaster journey only to crash and burn. "Time to die"
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| Quote ="Adeybull"What don't you believe?
Go ask ANYONE up at the club what THEY believe. They have had to live through it.
Of COURSE the bloody business was bust! Of COURSE more money was going out than was coming in! Moore & Calvert believed they had fixed that long-term, through a combination of swinging cuts and income improvements. But they clearly could not cover the £2/3m Sky monies confiscation. Only a multi-millionaire could.
Seems pretty clear to me that the Sky monies confiscation meant the only way the Bulls could survive was with a very wealthy owner prepared to bankroll the club. None has ever been forthcoming.
Those responsible for the Sky money confiscation should hang their heads in shame. Great business model, RFL: make bloody certain that NO ordinary folk of reasonable means can rescue the club. Fekk the lot of you.'"
So you agree, liquidation is the logical, if not only, course of action?
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"Sky funding reduced by 2/3 over last 2 years'"
Didn't the bulls get an advance in their sky which meant it was reduced long term to plug short term holes?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Don't be absurd.
He would not be buying a SL club.
He would be buying litle more than a Championship club, since relegation would be an absolute certainty.'"
Isn't that the general point of the RFL statement, that London have had to do that to avoid administration?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"What don't you believe?
Go ask ANYONE up at the club what THEY believe. They have had to live through it.
Of COURSE the bloody business was bust! Of COURSE more money was going out than was coming in! Moore & Calvert believed they had fixed that long-term, through a combination of swinging cuts and income improvements. But they clearly could not cover the £2/3m Sky monies confiscation. Only a multi-millionaire could.
Seems pretty clear to me that the Sky monies confiscation meant the only way the Bulls could survive was with a very wealthy owner prepared to bankroll the club. None has ever been forthcoming.
Those responsible for the Sky money confiscation should hang their heads in shame. Great business model, RFL: make bloody certain that NO ordinary folk of reasonable means can rescue the club. Fekk the lot of you.'"
So you agree, liquidation is the logical, if not only, course of action?
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| Quote ="dboy"And you conveniently ignore that you received that punishment for your previous mismanagement!
Twice in 2 years!
If, after admin 1, Bulls had addressed their business properly, admin 2 would not have happened.
You are reaping what you sowed.'"
You are a proper c0ck head
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| Quote ="Spannerz"My sentiments exactly. This could be the final nail in the coffin for me and RL. If this is how it finishes I'm done. 20 + years, it's been a roller coaster journey only to crash and burn. "Time to die"'"
Seems kind of fickle, there's more to rugby league than the bulls.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Isn't that the general point of the RFL statement, that London have had to do that to avoid administration?'"
So what are these magical things that London and Wakefield have done that the Bulls haven't?
This smug "You should cut your cloth accordingly" sentiment keeps coming up but I do not see Wakefield or London doing something the Bulls haven't done over the last 2 years.
Cut costs? Done that
Cut back on staff? Done that both off and on the pitch.
So please, WHAT have Wakefield and London done differently?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Didn't the bulls get an advance in their sky which meant it was reduced long term to plug short term holes?'"
Good question, now remember the noise about that a couple of years ago, so honestly cannot answer how much the reduction was to recover those advances, I'm sure someone will provide a full answer
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"So what are these magical things that London and Wakefield have done that the Bulls haven't?
This smug "You should cut your cloth accordingly" sentiment keeps coming up but I do not see Wakefield or London doing something the Bulls haven't done over the last 2 years.
Cut costs? Done that
Cut back on staff? Done that both off and on the pitch.
So please, WHAT have Wakefield and London done differently?'"
If anyone thinks our squad is as strong as 2 years ago, look again, proving we have reduced our costs significantly!
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Isn't that the general point of the RFL statement, that London have had to do that to avoid administration?'"
It is not the point of my post though.
I asked who the hell would pay good money to buy, and fund, the Bulls business (what is left of it) off the administrator, in the certain knowledge it was a Championship club in waiting he was buying? And would have to pour money in this year for...pretty well nothing whatsoever, really?
Just go buy a Championship club and put your money into THAT.
I hope the RFL have plans in place for a 13-team competition for SL 2014? Because I fear it will either be that, or Bulls putting boys out to be beaten up by big hard men every week, getting lower and lower on numbers till you are down to young teenagers.
Absent a Marwen, who the hell would want to put money into such a lost cause???
But never mind, at leats the other clubs can share out the REST of our SKy money between themsleves.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Didn't the bulls get an advance in their sky which meant it was reduced long term to plug short term holes?'"
No.
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| The insults have started...
Open your eyes, see the people running your club for what they are, see that the business is not sustainable, accept that the Bulls business model does not work, accept that change is needed.
And accept that if change is not immediate, you won't have a club to follow.
And stop insulting people just because they don't agree with you.
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"If anyone thinks our squad is as strong as 2 years ago, look again, proving we have reduced our costs significantly!'"
Clearly something more needed.
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| Quote ="dboy"The insults have started...
Open your eyes, see the people running your club for what they are, see that the business is not sustainable, accept that the Bulls business model does not work, accept that change is needed.
And accept that if change is not immediate, you won't have a club to follow.
And stop insulting people just because they don't agree with you.'"
I wonder if this was the post that finally made this sad, little man come.
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| Quote ="dboy"Clearly something more needed.'"
Like?
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"Seems kind of fickle, there's more to rugby league than the bulls.'"
Is there? Given the general lack of support for international football before the World Cup, it's a sport dominated by tribal club loyalties, so on a Bulls forum, I think you're wrong. I've watched Bradford through thick and thin since 1967, if Bulls go under, I'd probably still watch on Sky, probably go to occasional internationals against Australia or New Zealand, but weekly club games, forget it. I suspect a good proportion of fans from every club would say the same in the same situation
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| If half of the sky money was agreed by OK Bulls and they are in administration, and a new buyer comes along surly that new company gets the whole allocation of sky money as the old agreement dies with OK Bulls ![Confused icon_confused.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_confused.gif)
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| Quote ="Adeybull"It is not the point of my post though.
I asked who the hell would pay good money to buy, and fund, the Bulls business (what is left of it) off the administrator, in the certain knowledge it was a Championship club in waiting he was buying? And would have to pour money in this year for...pretty well nothing whatsoever, really?
Just go buy a Championship club and put your money into THAT.
I hope the RFL have plans in place for a 13-team competition for SL 2014? Because I fear it will either be that, or Bulls putting boys out to be beaten up by big hard men every week, getting lower and lower on numbers till you are down to young teenagers.
Absent a Marwen, who the hell would want to put money into such a lost cause???
But never mind, at leats the other clubs can share out the REST of our SKy money between themsleves.'"
I'm not disputing that side of it. It would take a sugar daddy by the sounds of it.
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| I can't see how any of you can complain about the points deduction?! Rules are rules. Should you have been given a licence last time around? Answer - no
You will end up in the championship fighting for a place in the top four to play for 8 + 8+ 8 deal with it!
You do still however have more chance of playing in SL next season than Fev, Fax, Leigh, Sheffield or any other championship club!
It's not the fans or the players or the staffs fault so I feel for all. But the club unfortunately has to deal with the way it has being run over the last 5-6 years.
There are always consequences.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"So what are these magical things that London and Wakefield have done that the Bulls haven't?
This smug "You should cut your cloth accordingly" sentiment keeps coming up but I do not see Wakefield or London doing something the Bulls haven't done over the last 2 years.
Cut costs? Done that
Cut back on staff? Done that both off and on the pitch.
So please, WHAT have Wakefield and London done differently?'"
To put it bluntly, cut costs to what we can afford. There are probably two things that are different:
1. Our costs weren't as high in the first place. The team matched more closely our budget and our expectations.
2. The director who stepped in two years ago isn't, by the sounds of it, asking for his money back. That is probably the fundamental difference.
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