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| Close it IMO.
Long past its sell-by date.
No doubt like the Hydra another will arise, and another, and another...
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| Quote ="Bullpower"..
Given that all of this has run and run for quite sometime now I was only asking whether people thought it had really run it's course and so was only getting repetitive.'"
Wouldn't think so, for mine. If everything was going swimmingly then sure, but the way things are, I'd say a "coach" thread must have a long shelf-life yet.
Quote ="Bullpower"..
<[iand, just for the (Daily
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"My name is Bullpower, and I am Tendency Positive"
It's your constitutional right!
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| You are next to the bottom of the league. What should you be discussing? ME might be a one-trick pony but ATM he has the upper hand in the 'I told you so' competition. He says Macca, PT say it's the cost of repairing a drain.
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| Quote ="tigertot"... PT say it's the cost of repairing a drain.'"
I'm not sure we've made that actual diagnosis, we're still looking into sudden and inexplicable upwellings of sheeite all over the field when you least expect it
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I'm not sure we've made that actual diagnosis, we're still looking into sudden and inexplicable upwellings of sheeite all over the field when you least expect it
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Given the relative ground levels viz a viz the bogs & field it would probably be downwellings, a flood almost.
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| Does anybody recall whether Macca was involved in the Joynt voluntary tackle.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"So if you feel the need to tell anyone to STFU, don't include someone who already had. It's illogical.'"
If I'd have told you to STFU, I would have put it in no uncertain terms. I haven't, and purely feel instead of doing it in threads and derailing the thread, do it elsewhere.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I also resent your "every post on here" remark. I reserve the right if I so choose to reply to personal attacks (as no doubt would you) but most of what I post is, so far as I am concerned, on topic and reasoned, and in no way 'bickering' etc. '"
Yes, I've already said I meant 'every thread on here' rather than 'every post' and no, I don't reply to personal attacks against me. I grew past that stage a while back, maybe you should too?
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"For example you may have the view that most people want McNamara out. Do you insist that nobody disagrees with you? Or if they do, is it 'bickering'?'"
Nope, I respect the opinions of others - to which those who know me personally on here will know that.
You and Eddie are actually quite alike in terms of trying to get the last word in, and being so protective of your opinions. The posts I've read often lead me to believe that either of you would continue until the other one agrees with the others opinion.
Quote ="Adeybull"But its not helped by other highly-disenchanted fans rallying to his perverted cause because it provides an easy focus for discontent without the requirement for practicable solutions.'"
Was that aimed at me? If so, how am I rallying to his cause? Sure, I've known Eddie before rlfans through the Bullrage message board, to which Eddie was a moderator on there. However, my aim isn't to defend him, he has said some pretty dastardly stuff, but he isn't alone.
My focus of discontent is aimed at threads being derailed due to 3 people taking digs at each other and boosting their own egos (FA, Eddie, Tiger) which just lead to meaningless dialogue for the rest of us.
So yeah, I hope that wasn't aimed at me as I actually had you down to be one of the reasonable posters, if not a little confused with your own feelings at times (ie.. negative one week, positive the next).
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"The common denominator in the threads he is complaining about would seem to be you. The person who starts off this stuff would also seem to be you. The person who makes repeated efforts to get a rise would also seem to be you.'"
It's not just him. Whoever starts it, shouldn't. Whoever replies to it, shouldn't. What makes it worse is that you're all above 20 years of age, probably with a wife and/or kids but let's be honest - you're acting like kids.
Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"If Paul124897 or anyone else wants to read your stuff unopposed they should say so. If they agree with you, I never said anyone wasn't free to do that. And if Paul124897 is fair then while he may not like my disagreeing with you, he should realise that not disagreeing with you would leave you to post unopposed. '"
Debate is good. Where did I say I wanted to read things unopposed? I want to read a debate that doesn't include mindless name calling or extremities such as a certain poster should commit suicide because he has an opinion that someone doesn't agree with (I'm looking at you Tiger Beer).
Get your opinions out on the table, but don't try to change somebodies opinion. If someone is being outrageous, just laughing and move on. He/She is entitled to that opinion.
Now, to draw this post to a conclusion, I have no spat with either of you. As I've said, debate is good. But debate really ing sucks when wading through pages of nonsense.
You've all said valid points in regards to the club and where it is at.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"PM sent.'"
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| Pretty sure we don't need to know about when you PM each other.
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| Quote ="Paul124897" if not a little confused with your own feelings at times (ie.. negative one week, positive the next).'"
Whadya MEAN..."not a little confused?"
Too right I'm confused! I'm a LOT confused! Like most of us were! How can the team we saw a week last Friday turn into the one we saw last Friday? Its been like riding a roller-coaster watching this lot, although right now we seem to be spending rather too long in the underground dark bit. That's bound to come across in what people (other than the diehard optimists and the perennial negativites) say on here, especially straight after matches.
I live in hope of being confused again THIS Friday!
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| Quote ="dixie"Pretty sure we don't need to know about when you PM each other.
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| Steve McNamara's record.
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Win Ratio 52% from 19 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game
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Win Ratio 62% from 27 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game
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Win Ratio 51% from 27 games
26 points For average per game
23 points Against average per game
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Win Ratio 22% from 9 games
18 points For average per game
27 points Against average per game
Since round 12 last year when it appears the wheels fell off.
Win Ratio 37% from 24 games
24 points For average per game
26 points Against average per game
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| Quote ="redeverready"Steve McNamara's record.
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Win Ratio 22% from 9 games
18 points For average per game
27 points Against average per game
Since round 12 last year when it appears the wheels fell off.
Win Ratio 37% from 24 games
24 points For average per game
26 points Against average per game'"
I made this point on aother thread, a win ratio of 22% would have us bottom (Celtic notwithstanding) and would have had us bottom the last two years and relegated instead of Salford.
There are many manifold reasons put forward for this as extensively discussed elsewhere, but this basic fact needs improving ASAP by the current staff or a new one (obvious I know, but Im feeling in a obvious mood)
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Its OK. We were only talking about you.
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Surely i'm not that important, but thank you!
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| Quote ="redeverready"Steve McNamara's record.
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Win Ratio 52% from 19 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game
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Win Ratio 62% from 27 games
27 points For average per game
20 points Against average per game
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Win Ratio 51% from 27 games
26 points For average per game
23 points Against average per game
2009
Win Ratio 22% from 9 games
18 points For average per game
27 points Against average per game
Since round 12 last year when it appears the wheels fell off.
Win Ratio 37% from 24 games
24 points For average per game
26 points Against average per game'"
Depressing reading. I didn't think we'd fall this badly but personally i never thought McNarama was the right man in 2007 to make this Bulls team contenders. Not that i wanna go into a debate about money being the issue. Just don't think he's done well enough with squad at disposal.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"My focus of discontent is aimed at threads being derailed due to 3 people taking digs at each other and boosting their own egos (FA, Eddie, Tiger) which just lead to meaningless dialogue for the rest of us.'"
Your ego seems to be on parade here. If I challenge ME that's it, there's no "ego" agenda, it's what he says. If he didn't say it, I wouldn't challenge it.
Quote ="Paul124897"It's not just him. '"
No? Who else, then? (Occasional easily disposed of trolls and infants excepted?)
Quote ="Paul124897"Whoever starts it, shouldn't. '"
Well, maybe not, but if they do?
Quote ="Paul124897"Whoever replies to it, shouldn't. '"
Ah, well. That depends. Trolls and puerile stuff is one thing, but patently unfair, often malicious, always carefully aimed strategies are another.
Quote ="Paul124897"What makes it worse is that you're all above 20 years of age, probably with a wife and/or kids but let's be honest - you're acting like kids.'"
Your superficial opinion. Personally I think ME is far from acting like a kid.
Quote ="Paul124897"Debate is good. Where did I say I wanted to read things unopposed?'"
Let me think; maybe:
Quote Whoever starts it, shouldn't. '"
Quote Whoever replies to it, shouldn't. '"
Quote ="Paul124897"Get your opinions out on the table, but don't try to change somebodies opinion. '"
Leaving aside the pretty obvious point that most people having debates would like to "win the debate" - which is pretty much the same thing as changing opinions, either of the opponent/s, or the audience, or both - how does your system work? As I understand you, ME can get his opinion "out on the table" - but nobody should respond?
Quote ="Paul124897"If someone is being outrageous, just laughing and move on. He/She is entitled to that opinion.'"
Piffle. I don't have a problem with anyone on these boards that I think posts their honest and fair opinions, I do have a problem with people whose aims seem to me to be to destabilise the club that I follow. Unlike you, I don't want to censor them, much as they might annoy me, but given that they are not censored, why should replies be restricted?
Quote ="Paul124897"Now, to draw this post to a conclusion, I have no spat with either of you. As I've said, debate is good. But debate really loving sucks when wading through pages of nonsense.'"
Debate? Oh, come off it, the last thing ME wants is a "debate". He can't handle debate. That's as good as any reason for challenging the worst of his efforts, as he then implodes. Well, at least until he re-groups. As for "nonsense", well, who am I to judge my own posts? I'd be surprised if any were, by and large, nonsense but it's your opinion.
What I will say though is the McNamara saga was (or so I understood) eventually confined to one particular barracks (this thread) specifically so anyone who felt the urge, or was willing or able to "wade through" it could do so, and anyone else who wasn't so inclined could avoid it. This to me seems very fair. Guess which poster then tries (with fair success) to funnel numerous other threads down the same avenue? (Clue: it's not me). It would be right if all such efforts were moved here whenever spotted. There was talk of locking this thread (which would actually seem odd, since of all the clubs, coaching at Bradford would seem at least as fair game for a topic as anywhere else). I don't care either way, but it will only lead to another explosion of McNamara threads all over the place IMHO.
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| Thought i would come on your forum and see what your chit chatting about,but all you lot do is b*tch at each other.Think i will try another club.
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| Quote ="obeone"Thought i would come on your forum and see what your chit chatting about,but all you lot do is b*tch at each other.Think i will try another club.
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The Dark Side has been strong on here of late...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"The Dark Side has been strong on here of late...'" Don't just blame the Dark side.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Don't just blame the Dark side.'"
I wasn't. Was just making a light-hearted observation given the nature of the guy making the post and the general depression on here of late...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I wasn't. Was just making a light-hearted observation given the nature of the guy making the post and the general depression on here of late...
'" Maybe so. But more people will have read it the same way as me.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Maybe so. But more people will have read it the same way as me.'"
Or maybe you are reading more into things than others?
I know I can be a right miserable serious bugger a lot of the time, but sometimes I think you are worse than me!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Or maybe you are reading more into things than others?
I know I can be a right miserable serious bugger a lot of the time, but sometimes I think you are worse than me!
'" Maybe I did read more in to than I should but it's was more in a reaction to your recent postathon with ME.
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