Thomas
Caro
Chamberlain
Oakes
Campbell
Keyes
Lilley
Kirk
Moore
Peltier
Smith
Bentley
Wilkinson

Mendeika
Davies
Hallas
Oledzki

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Chamberlain is more of a fullback/winger than a centre isn't he?

He's played a bit of centre this year for Widnes I believe. I think he's mainlly a centre/winger who's played a little fullback rather than t'other way around.

Its great to hear that 2V has our players "buzzing", "ripping it up" and "tearing houses down" on the training paddock.

Maybe we should ask if all our future fixtures can be played on the training ground cos when we play on real RL pictures we are getting the $hite knocked out of us.
Its so unfair that the opposition play real rugby against us - dont they realise how good we are in training.

Maybe the RFL can change the points system so that if your team is good in training you get points, instead of the current stupid system where you have to play real rugby against another team -wtf!

DR players must have played eight games at DR club to be eligible to play for both after regular season. Loan players can only play for one team after regular season. I'd expect Lilley, Oledzki, Hallas & Smith back at Leeds.

It's a bit like the old football joke when the player from the team at the bottom of the league said that they were playing much better now, "We only lost 3-2 against the dustbins in training".

Well I will be going. I'm hoping that geoff being officially appointed will make a difference to the players as they see the commitment.

Like us fans, I imagine the players have been told very little info and when your coach isn't officially in place they may have struggled to get fully onboard especially after receiving the letters. Maybe, just maybe they will see Geoff as a guarantee something is happening at the club to build on and get up for the rochdale game.

How I see it, the next two games are vital. Rochdale aren't in great form either, then Oldham play midweek before coming to us. Win both we have a very slim chance of gaining confidence with 2 wins on the bounce and putting up a fight to stay up. Lose both, we are relegated.

If they can't get up for these games we deserve to be relegated IMO.

I'm willing to give the players my full support. All I ask is they (and the club in general) give something back.

(Not a dig at anyone who decides not to go - I'm suprised we still get the great numbers we do)

The last attendance was helped by all the local junior teams being invited to play at halftime. Next week will be helped by the attendees of a Bulls Foundation/Scouts touch rugby festival today getting to play on the pitch at halftime. In both cases child and 1 parent get in free. It's great to see them reaching out to the local kids, and hopefully at least some will return.

Ridicolous try to give away just on half time.Once again inviting a team into a game they havant been in.

We've conceded 2 soft tries today. This could be decided by which team are fitter and handle the heat. Scorching weather down at the Spotland!

Well, that's another Sunday ruined for me. Can anyone see us winning another game this year?

If we was a dog you would take it and have it put down.. .

At the moment being a Bulls fan is like going to watch your pet dog kicked to death every week anyway.

The Bulls really know how to ruin a perfect summers day don't they?!

Both of the Hornets second half tries were embarrassing. Biscuit tackling and switching off after a kick on the last and boom, the game is gone. We have no belief when we get near the line and our confidence sinks after every error. Rochdale slowed the game down a fair bit today but their heart and determination to never give in got them over the line.

We had copious amounts of ball on their line and at one point they looked like they were dead on their feet but yet again we become masters of or own downfall and botch the final play.

If Oldham turn up and ruffle a few feathers we'll buckle again. Very hard to see where the next win is coming from?!

It's ok we know where we're going wrong and will work on it in Training! Oh sorry that was 5-6 years ago! New Coach in place same result. Seemed like more of the same on Twitter, Bulls have the ball, handling error...

For me, the biggest issue is an ever revolving 17 man squad. Having inconsistencies in pivotal positions must be detrimental to the cohesiveness of the squad?! Have we played the same 17 back to back at all this season? I'm sure this is the catalyst to our current plight.

Jesus wept, we really are an embarrassment. We've still got Hull KR (h) & Fax (a) to go in the regular fixtures haven't we?

If there was any doubt about relegation, I think our fate was sealed. What a waste of a season.

One simple word - GARBAGE

I think a lot of it is that most of our current squad just aren't good enough. They were signed at the start of the season, as they were the only players who remained or the only players who couldn't find deals elsewhere (make of that what you will).

Then for various reasons/excuses (no pre-season, lack of fitness throughout, no 'coach', no confidence, no experience) they have got gradually worse throughout this torrid season.

Dropping balls is just inexcusable. Missing tackle counts, is too really, for full-time professional rugby league players.

How many of these (barring the academy lot) will pick up deals next season? Who could possibly look at them and think they were better than what they already have? They have been shown to be mediocre against the bottom 2 part-time teams in the league over the past month. These players are lacking the most basic rugby league skills. What on earth do they do in these magnificent training sessions we hear about all week?

Third game in a row that someone has dropped out in warm -up. Presumably result of wafer thin squad with few replacements to " normal " 17

They would have had a great season in C1 where we should have been

There WAS no pre-season, fact.

There WAS no coach till last week, fact.

The Championship isn't C1, but our scratch squad has been as erratic as you might expect. Had some key additions been found before Easter, things would have been different but the sequence of losses whilst it is all that matters for the endgame, doesn't tell the whole story.

This season won't be good to look back on, but if you watched us at Blackpool against the best team in the league, you wouldn't write them off as terminally crap, and before Easter the fact (to me) is we were playing the most enjoyable rugby a lot of the time, that I've watched since several years. Naive, inexperienced, and short of class and grunt, yes. Inherently crap and hopeless? Despite the run of losses, clearly not. We don't have any depth, but just as one " for instance", I'm certain with the class of Chisholm on the field we'd have won against Rochdale, and had he not done his knee, we'd have likely even beaten KR.

Coulda woulda shoulda.

Fact is we're down and the owners will know it. Can they bankroll the club in this scenario? I would be worried but now I'm just resigned.

I didn't go today but having seen Dewsbury and Fev it sounded like more of the same with one big factor influencing things that never should for a full-time team against part timers. Fitness. We've got some sketchy players who just don't have the ability, yes; we've got churn every week, yes; we're arguably playing naively against some cynical tactics (is staying down feigning injury now part of the Dewsbury mentality as it seems a consistent play?), yes. But what is consistent right now is that we're doing worse in the second half than the first even when we're ahead, and that's not good enough.

In mitigation, the advantage for full timers these days doesn't just come from being able to train more - it's more sports science driven - and maybe having Leigh Beattie, hard working but unqualified, running things has been a factor. We genuinely have missed a pre season in this respect.

But even so, this just isn't good enough right now.

Wasn't one of things mentioned in chalmers meeting that we had only just got a physio and had recently changed the conditioner?. Will take a while before we see any benefit on field.