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| Wish I could get sacked like Nobby, full pay for rest of contract and nowt to do! My sort of sacking, that
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| To put you in the picture Nobby this time didnt have 6 x 9 foot forwards to call upon or indeed 7 x Amazonian backs to run over the top of oppos`s defences.
In other words his style of Rugby of 5 drives and an up and under didnt suit the `entertainment` culture the Doctor wishes to have.
6 x SL wins in a year only.
Nobby recruited the team with the Doctors dough and allowed good youngsters like Sneyd & Owen to go on Loan.
I hope he stays but fear he will go - as FA says - with a nice wedge of moolah.
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| Quote ="Noah100"I think Leeds have got first refusal of Harris coaching contract !'"
I'm glad that you still have a sense of humour regarding Harris
IMO Gary is well satisfied with the recompense he received when you signed him as a player
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| Harris in interviews and conversations just reminds me of Paul Cullen . If he coaches the same Salford best get ready for pure boring mediocrity
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| Quote ="Early Bath"...his style of Rugby of 5 drives and an up and under didnt suit the `entertainment` culture the Doctor wishes to have.
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Come again? 2 minor premierships, 3 Grand Finals, 1 Challenge Cup win and keeping Wigan improbably in SL? All on 5 drives and a kick?
Hmm. Doesn't say much about every other coach in the Nobby glory years, then!
FYI apart from being a great team, the Bulls were royally entertaining, I know, I watched every game. We were so entertaining we attracted record crowds. You really have no idea.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"To put you in the picture Nobby this time didnt have 6 x 9 foot forwards to call upon or indeed 7 x Amazonian backs to run over the top of oppos`s defences.
In other words his style of Rugby of 5 drives and an up and under didnt suit the `entertainment` culture the Doctor wishes to have.
6 x SL wins in a year only.
Nobby recruited the team with the Doctors dough and allowed good youngsters like Sneyd & Owen to go on Loan.
I hope he stays but fear he will go - as FA says - with a nice wedge of moolah.'"
I don't know who first propagated this weird notion that Nobby 'doesn't do entertaining rugby', but it's total claptrap. To put it simply, you don't win the amount of 'pots' that he did by just playing one out rugby.
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| Quote ="Bulliac"To put it simply, you don't win the amount of 'pots' that he did by just playing one out rugby.'"
Absolutely. He did not win so much just by playing one dimensional, "one out" rugby.
He also cheated the salary cap at any given opportunity. That helped too.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Come again? 2 minor premierships, 3 Grand Finals, 1 Challenge Cup win and keeping Wigan improbably in SL? All on 5 drives and a kick?
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How many subsequent points deductions?
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"How many subsequent points deductions?'"
Now THIS is why people perceive you to gain little enjoyment from life. Is this the best you have to say about the magical days under noble?
I expect people from other clubs to petulantly refer to our minor cap infringements as if they negate our success, but from one of our own it's just daft.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"Now THIS is why people perceive you to gain little enjoyment from life. Is this the best you have to say about the magical days under noble?
I expect people from other clubs to petulantly refer to our minor cap infringements as if they negate our success, but from one of our own it's just daft.'" it's all about a bit of balance. If people are going to discuss the merits if Noble then it's something that cannot be ignored.
We had a great side, and good times, sure, but fundamentally a lot of it was because we were spending more than we were allowed to and it dampens the joy somewhat.
FWIW, he cheated to keep Wigan up too.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"it's all about a bit of balance. If people are going to discuss the merits if Noble then it's something that cannot be ignored.
We had a great side, and good times, sure, but fundamentally a lot of it was because we were spending more than we were allowed to and it dampens the joy somewhat.
FWIW, he cheated to keep Wigan up too.'"
I'm amazed that this 'cheat' Noble, managed to break the salary cap all by him self, without anyone else at the club aware of what was going on.
Shame on both Chris Caisley and Dave Whelan.
Seriously though, the cap breaks are not something I would blame Noble for, I very much doubt he was in charge of the clubs finances.
Another thing, didn't Bradford break the cap once, by which point we had already been crowned Challenge Cup, Super League and World Club Champions?
Not sure we owe all our triumphs on the break of the cap.......
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Absolutely. He did not win so much just by playing one dimensional, "one out" rugby.
He also cheated the salary cap at any given opportunity. That helped too.'"
I think it's fair to say that the minor cap infringements would have made absolutely no difference at all to our winning streak, but we have the pots in the cabinet, I have the good times in my memory, and I laugh my cock off at the bitter buffoons who, Black Knight stylee, want to pursue some hopeless mad pointless personal vendettas, in fact it adds to the entertainment
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| Didn't we just break the cap in 2005? Don't recall any probs in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Didn't we just break the cap in 2005? Don't recall any probs in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004.'"
Exactly
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Didn't we just break the cap in 2005? Don't recall any probs in 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004.'"
And again in 2006.
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| We broke it every year, as did (and do) most top clubs. Mostly they all didn't get caught.
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| FA - The tactics employed by Nobby when with you were implemented with us - hence 6 wins since he took over in the last 12 months. Oh - & I have watched every game too & having played the game, been involved at a reasonable level in the game - sure - I must have `no idea` but I will reiterate his boring tactics have brought him the sack this time.
Lovely bloke and hope he takes the position Marwan has offered but please keep him away from Coaching unless you enjoy a kip for 80 minutes.
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| There was one, maybe even two very minor breeches but I think the biggest over the cap episode was the year Shontayne Hape got injured playing for NZ and was out for a couple of months.
We/Nobby/Caisley/whoever was responsible assumed that the insurance taken out by the NZRL would be used to pay Shonny, so went out and brought in a replacement, on the assumption that, as the insurance was paying Shonny, we could spend what we'd saved on A.N. Other.
Unfortunately, for our exceptionally cunning plan, NZ hadn't even taken out any insurance on their players which, sort of, left us with egg on our faces. Oh, yes and equally unfortunately, over the cap.
We were also involved in all the 'image rights' nonsense too, of course, along with all the other 'top' clubs. None of this negates what happened on the field at the time though, no matter how miserable it makes some of our 'supporters'.
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| Quote ="Early Bath"FA - The tactics employed by Nobby when with you were implemented with us - hence 6 wins since he took over in the last 12 months. Oh - & I have watched every game too & having played the game, been involved at a reasonable level in the game - sure - I must have `no idea` but I will reiterate his boring tactics have brought him the sack this time. '"
My comments related to the way i watched Bradford play for many years. I wouldn't presume to tell a Salford fan how his team played when I haven't watched those games. My issue is with fools who claim Noble can't coach, or can't coach entertaining teams, or has no plan B, or plays 5 drives and a kick, or some such simplistic facile and generalised nonsense.
Quote ="Early Bath"Lovely bloke and hope he takes the position Marwan has offered but please keep him away from Coaching unless you enjoy a kip for 80 minutes.'"
I can't, he seems to do what he wants, and wouldn't listen to me. I'm sure in contrast with all your experience and expertise he would see he should listen to you, though, so maybe you could have the necessary word?
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| I think you will find we were not the only one's to break the salary cap!
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| Quote ="zapperbull"I think you will find we were not the only one's to break the salary cap!'"
Did I say that we were?
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| Quote ="Bulliac" None of this negates what happened on the field at the time though, no matter how miserable it makes some of our 'supporters'.'"
Well actually it does. Try as hard as you might to bury your head in the sand but any trophy won via cheating, is a tarnished trophy.
Whether it was by a "small amount" or the fault of NZRL is irrelevant.
I will say again that if, say, Leeds did it then they would be roundly (and rightly) pilloried on here. I hate seeing cheating prosper and won't turn a blind eye just because it is my club.
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| Quote ="redeverready"And again in 2006.'"
And again with Wigan in 2007......
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| Quote ="daveyz999"
Not sure we owe all our triumphs on the break of the cap.......'"
Again, I never said we did. However, I am sure that you will accept that Mr Noble has a bit of form for managing sides that subsequently get points deductions for salary cap breaches would you not?
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