I hope you keep as many as possible, especially the younger guys with potential. The sale of the club needs to be sorted ASAP, along with your position for next year. I for one hope you stay in SL, and have no idea why anyone would want to see otherwise.

I'll say again, the gloaters from other clubs make me sick, as they did around Wakefield previously. What gets me is that I'm not sure there's a single club in SL that hasn't been in serious financial distress at some time or other (maybe Sts?). Some of these idiots will look every bit the tools they are if/when their own club faces possible extinction.

Wouldn't wish it on any club to be fair. At every "tool's" club there are a thousand genuine RL fans (and probably more than fifty players and staff) who just don't deserve it.

I think the older, wiser Saints fans will tell you their club was seemingly 24 hours off oblivion when McManus stepped in, IIRC?

Most of the other clubs struggled cos they can't/couldnt get fans thru the doors not cos they chased the dream, tasted the glory and then it went belly up as in the Bulls case.

So the Giants are not chasing the dream? as in actually winning some silverware... and by the way you lot still can't get the fans "thru the doors"

There was an element having "tasted the glory" which didn't help in the Bull's case. The fact that we'd been so successful did cause a number of fans to be totally unrealistic when the club hit the inevitable downward spiral, pace the number of fans on here with their posts about, "We shouldn't have such poor players as ???? in the team 'cos we're the Bulls", or "It's a disgrace that we're losing to teams like XXXX", etc etc, and ridiculous as the posts were it, there's little doubt it did put the people in charge under pressure.

Getting fans through the door is only one way of raising finance though, as most clubs know only too well, but we never found that elusive backer either.

Although it may not seem like it to you guys, particularly early on when the vultures seemed to be circling, but given the speculation about every other teams players, there appears to be very little about Bradford's, especially given that so many are off contract.

OK the Bateman speculation has always been in the background and there is the occasional claim from a club that they have signed one of your lads, but no serious stuff, as we have had about Holdsworth going to Hull, Blake Green going to Wigan etc and all the palaver about Chase going to Hull prior to the deadline.

In a strange way your squad seems to be treated with a bit more respect, well at least in public. It may well be that all sorts of deals have been done with your OOC players, but at least they seem to be under wraps.

No doubt all linked with the wider uncertainty about what the future holds for the Club itself.

I'd expect that all the player's agents would have some sort of deal set up. They would be failing in their duty to the player otherwise, nor could you blame them, they have families and mortgages and bills coming in like everyone else. The players and staff (who are working for nothing) at Odsal are total heroes for me and some of the very few to come out of this debacle with credit.

£500k was the deal from Warrington to take Bateman & Whitehead. Would certainly help the cashflow situation. I'm not 100% if the deal went through, but it was a straight forward transfer fee.

Of course the Giants are chasing silverware and as we don't get the fans we are fortunate that we have one of the best men ever out there in Sir Ken Davy, who backs us to the hilt.

However he is a shrewd business man and will not spend money that he doesn't have or isn't a good investment, he also doesn't cheat and spend above the cap.

Bradford on the other hand are now suffering the consequenses

Thats a big number, if true, in the present climate, the sort of deal many clubs could not afford to turn down let alone a Club in Administration!

Time like this really show who the fans of other clubs of moral integrity and substance are.

And those who have the moral integrity of something that crawls along the bottom of the pond.

To the former - we salute you.

To the latter - may you rot.

Ever thought of changing your paper to something a bit more sensible?

Bateman is having you all on. He's signed for the wolves
Way way back but he's keeping in with the bulld fans by keep dribbling on
About loving Bradford, wanting to stay. He knows how to play the game!

Thanks, that's useful.

That can't be true. There are rules about when you can speak to contracted players and they are utterly sacrosanct within the game.

Absolute trash, if bradford stays in sl bateman stays with us, hes signed for noone, and that isnt just wishful thinking i know for a fact from an rfl coach that went to aus with him.

Cash flow isn't a problem.

Aren't they just!!!

Of course!! Just like the salary cap, no club would [iever[/i contemplate doing anything to circumvent it.

I've heard the following:

4. Chev Walker 2012
6. Ben Jeffries 2012 - Back to Australia, not sure if he is retiring or playing in the second tier.
11. Olivier Elima 2012 - Catalan Dragons.
15. Bryn Hargreaves 2012 - Wakefield or Widnes.
16. Manase Manuokafoa 2012
17. Ian Sibbit 2012 - Retiring.
18. Shaun Ainscough 2012 - Castleford.
20. James Donaldson 2012 - Huddersfield.
21. Tom Burgess 2012 - Confirmed to Souths.
22. Jarrod Sammut 2012 - Huddersfield.
23. Danny Addy 2012 - Castleford.
24. Jason Crookes 2012 - Hull FC.
27. Kyle Briggs 2012 - Featherstone.
30. Liam McAvoy 2012
33. Karl Pryce 2012 - London.
34. Phil Joseph 2012 - Halifax.

These rules are set in stone, and the RFL are not for turning!!!

Yeah...., well I'm not totally gullible, I'm having doubts about that Santa Claus chap [iand[/i I'm beginning to believe that that Gideon Osborne bloke believes more fairy stories than I do....

your talking absolute trash as i Know for a Fact John Bateman has signed 3yr deal with Hull FC I even know how much He will be getting each Yr and its not a rumour but you wont believe it till he makes a statement coz its true and those that dont believe well we will just have to wait and see

John was offered deals by 2 NRL clubs aswell

Considering I actually know John. Bradford was offered a £300,000 transfer from Warrington (we all knew that).

He also was asked to join Newcastle, Wests Tigers and I believe Penrith also wanted him.

However he will remain a Bradford player so long as their is a SL Bradford team to play for.