1. Bradford Bulls
2. The Rest

Leeds to finish top and clean up this year! Bulls to make play offs!

Wire to win Super League.
Hull FC to win the Challenge Cup.
Patrick Ah Van for Man Of Steel.

Well I have just asked a magic 8-ball - "Will the Bulls win the Super League 2012?"
It said - "Forget about it."
Oh well.
Happy Christmas Everyone.

You are Peter Hood and I claim my £5

Had this discussion in the pub the other night. My table went:

Saints
Warrington
Hull FC
Wigan
Leeds
Catalan
Huddersfield
Bradford
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London
Castleford
Salford
Hull KR
Wakefield
Widnes

A high spot for Hull? I'm not sure if there's as much improvement in them this year. From last years playoff spot holders, KR, Catalans and Huddersfield hold a lot of intrigue for me. Hopefully we've improved enough to challenge (and beat) the likes of those teams regularly. It will be interesting to see how Wakey get on. Surely too much change in one year for them to be competitive.

1. Warrington
2. Saints
3. Catalans
4. Wigan
5. Leeds
6. Bradford
7. Huddersfield
8. Hull FC

9. Hull KR
10. Castleford
11. Wakefield
12. Salford
13. London
14. Widnes

I can easily see HKR finishing higher than us and possibly higher than Hull. The bottom 3 will be Widnes, Wakefield and Salford. The top 5 will be made up of Wire, Leeds, Wigan, Saints and Hudders. The rest are almost interchangeable.

Hull KR don't really look to have strengthened IMO. They've got some solid if unspectacular forwards, fairly skillful backs and a couple of good halves in Green and Dobson. Squad for Squad i think ours is stronger and we should be finishing above them.

Why are Hull KR going to be so good? Who have they signed?

Willie Mason

HKR were comfortably better than us last year and have brought in some steady new signings (Paea, Mika & McDonnell) and have a new guy in charge to freshen things up. Their halves already have a good underrstanding and they have some backs that are quite decent. They're my tip for club to slip under the radar, provided the new coach is up to scratch.

Also got regular but young players in Liam Watts, Scott Taylor and Jordan Cox maturing. Joel Clinton is returning from lengthy injury too. Like you say it could be down to the new gaffers game plans bedding in

Pretty much this but I'd swap Hudds with Catalans in the top 5, think they'll have a really strong year.

Some real optimism from bulls fans here but 6th..

More likely you will be fighting around for that 8th spot along with us and a few others.

Salford and Widnes bottom 2 for me as the squads look weaker than the rest.

What's the logic behind everyone placing Wakey in bottom 3? The only reason I ask is that I haven't paid much attention to how Wakey have rebuilt other than to notice various snippets on "wakeys 165th close-season signing". Presumably then, despite them bringing a fair few in, you all reckon they've bought dross?

And you say we're optimistic?

I think it's the fact that there's so much change, as well as new coaching staff, it will take time to gell. Although they have signed some half decent players none are stand outs that drastically improve the squad.

1 Warrington
2 Leeds
3 Saints
4 Wigan
5 Hudds
6 Cats
7 FC
8 Bulls

9 Cas
10 KR
11 Wakefield
12 Salford
13 Widnes
14 London

Is that quote drastically different from what we've done though? Whilst we have definately strengthened, we've only improved the squad just enough to be challenging for 8th in my opinion. We are ok - just as Cas, Wakey, Hull KR, Hull etc are.

1. Warrington
2. Saints
3. Wigan
4. Catalans
5. Huddersfield
6. Bradford
7. Hull FC
8. Leeds
9. Hull KR
10. Wakefield
11. London
12. Salford
13. Widnes
14. Castleford

I'd say your squad already had a bit more quality to it before taking into account the additions. Arn't Wakefield's 1-13 squad numbers all taken up by new signings? I just think that's too much of an overhall at once. Plus, said new coach at Wakefield dosen't exactly have a brilliant record at getting the best out of players according to the fans of his previous club.

For me I've got you challenging for 8th place, along with KR, Cas and possibly even London, who have made a few astute signings. I think there will be a bit of a gap between the top and bottom half, although I can see it being very tight from places 8 to possibly 12 or 13. The only teams I can't envisage challenging for the play-offs are Salford, who appear to be in dissaray as a club, and Widnes, although I'm not so sure they'll be the whipping boys everyone is predicting.

All in all I'm just hoping for a more competitive Super League, with less blow out scores against teams who come the secon half of the season are already shot.

Who have Bradford signed to suggest you will make the play offs this season

Hope this is just wishful thinking on your part and not a genuine indication of complete idiocy.