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Well the RFL are looking at the incident [url=http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,12215_7134913,00.htmlLink[/url
I just wonder if Wigan's move is trying to pre-empt any further punishment from the RFL
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I just wonder if Wigan's move is trying to pre-empt any further punishment from the RFL'"
Obviously, I approve of their wording. Any club with any sense would try to get in first. |
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I am quietly impressed by the way Wigan have handled this situation. I can't think they could do much more.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Tomkins is an idiot, and from what we see of him, doesn't seem like the nicest piece of work, if a rugby genius. Having said that, he's a young lad and not too bright, and to have had thousands of morons booing your every play while theoretically supporting your team must have messed with his head. It would certainly pi$s me off. Doing what he did was childish and he couldn't have picked a worse occasion, but the supreme irony is that the people calling for his head are in large numbers the morons who abuse him with vile language yet see no contradiction in themselves behaving like foul-mouthed gutter dwellers yet claim to be mortally offended by a two finger salute.'"
All very true but I think the occasion, the where and when, is the reason the RFL will feel they have to do something. I'd only expect a fine and maybe a warning letter, but at what is, arguably, the biggest game of the season, with a large number of TV watchers the game is hoping to impress, some dolt slings a 'V' at the camera.
We're back to the damage done to the image of the game, not to forget the old argument about how many parents will be put off letting their kids go for RL training when they see 'superstars' of the game acting like that. Bright or not, he shouldn't have done it. |
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He's got off with a suspended fine I read elsewhere (find the link yourselves, IT is for geeks). Personally, if it had been, say, Charnley I would have said a fine & a warning was sufficient, so I think he has got off fractionally lightly, but I won't be frothing at the mouth about it. Cue disgrace/joke/bent etc etc.
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Suspended fine of £1000 is not a strong message. Seems RFL caved in.
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What is the point? Another stupid thing to be done by the idiots who run our sport. If I put what I really thought about them and Tomkins it would be deleted instantly, yet he makes the game look bad and he gets that. I think we need a change of management in our sport.
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It was a stupid thing he did. He's been fined by his club and he has a suspended fine from the RFL.
There's no need to go over board with his punishment. The way some people have been acting, you'd think he'd killed someone.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"
The way some people have been acting, you'd think he'd killed someone.'"
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| Quote ="Vamsie"Well they were very sharp pointed fingers!'"
Not to mention where they put them... |
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Where's Teresa May when you need her?
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| Quote ="jockabull"Not to mention where they put them...'"
....and it's not as if he posted them on Facebook. That'd have been a 4 year stretch in the current climate. |
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First job is to get rid of Nigel "Pudding" Wood, that guy really needs to shed some timber, bet he took up 2 seats at Wembley.
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"It was a stupid thing he did. He's been fined by his club and he has a suspended fine from the RFL.
There's no need to go over board with his punishment. The way some people have been acting, you'd think he'd killed someone.'"
Agreed. It seems to me that all too often the demographic of RLFans is "hysterical Daily Mail bigot". |
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| Quote ="tigertot"He's got off with a suspended fine I read elsewhere (find the link yourselves, IT is for geeks). Personally, if it had been, say, Charnley I would have said a fine & a warning was sufficient, so I think he has got off fractionally lightly, but I won't be frothing at the mouth about it. Cue disgrace/joke/bent etc etc.'"
Seems the RFL dealt with it exactly as they should have, to me. Including ignoring Apoplectic of Headingley. BTW we were at the top of St Ives yesterday when Mrs A came out with "Isn't it around here that we saw your mate teletubby?"  |
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Including ignoring Apoplectic of Headingley. /quote
Surprisingly, apoplexy's pretty thin on the ground amongst our lot, both over Tomkins' actions and his punishment. Fans of other clubs appear far more traumatised.
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This Facebook thread sums it up nicely for me:
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Tony Smith is urging Sam Tomkins to let his rugby do the talking after Wigan's rising star was punished for his infamous Wembley V-sign.
My response "Death by hanging for me. Then they need to drag his lifeless body through the streets of Leeds. How else will RL regain its reputation in the eyes of the world?"
Response to me 1 "Christian by name and nature. He without sin and all that..."
Response to me 2 "Here we go again! Christian grow up!"
Response to me 3 "shutup christian you idiot. Sam will soon realise life is better at rugby union if fools like you keep boo'ing him and hating him?!"
Response to me 4 "Just ignore him there is always some prat who thinks he knows best. Did we ban Sean long for life for betting against his own team or Ryan Bailey for assault no punishments were handed out and that's the end of it" |
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This Facebook thread sums it up nicely for me:
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Tony Smith is urging Sam Tomkins to let his rugby do the talking after Wigan's rising star was punished for his infamous Wembley V-sign.
My response "Death by hanging for me. Then they need to drag his lifeless body through the streets of Leeds. How else will RL regain its reputation in the eyes of the world?"
Response to me 1 "Christian by name and nature. He without sin and all that..."
Response to me 2 "Here we go again! Christian grow up!"
Response to me 3 "shutup christian you idiot. Sam will soon realise life is better at rugby union if fools like you keep boo'ing him and hating him?!"
Response to me 4 "Just ignore him there is always some prat who thinks he knows best. Did we ban Sean long for life for betting against his own team or Ryan Bailey for assault no punishments were handed out and that's the end of it" | |
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| Quote ="Clearwing"Surprisingly, apoplexy's pretty thin on the ground amongst our lot, both over Tomkins' actions and his punishment. Fans of other clubs appear far more traumatised.'"
I'm sorry, I was under the mistaken impression that a large number of apoplectic Leeds fans booed Tomkins' every move for 80 minutes in the international, till the veins on the sides of their head popped. I must have popped in and out of an alternative reality or something, where "Booooooooooo" means "Huzzah, play up, Tomkins". |
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I'm sorry, I was under the mistaken impression that a large number of apoplectic Leeds fans booed Tomkins' every move for 80 minutes in the international, till the veins on the sides of their head popped. I must have popped in and out of an alternative reality or something, where "Booooooooooo" means "Huzzah, play up, Tomkins".'"
No, the mistake's mine. I thought this thread was about Tomkins' behaviour during the cup final and the punishment he received, not an international game from a couple of months ago.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"No, the mistake's mine. I thought this thread was about Tomkins' behaviour during the cup final and the punishment he received, not an international game from a couple of months ago.
As for your alternative reality, I hope you return soon. It seems a most unpleasant place.'"
Ah, I see. You thought Tomkins' gesture was a purely random event, presumably done for no reason at all, and totally unconnected with any history between him and Leeds fans. I suggest your alternative reality does not help you understand events in this one. |
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Ah, I see. You thought Tomkins' gesture was a purely random event, presumably done for no reason at all, and totally unconnected with any history between him and Leeds fans. I suggest your alternative reality does not help you understand events in this one.'"
Maybe Tomkins spotted some apoplectic Bulls fans who waited an hour after a recent Bulls-Wigan game to call him a cheat?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Seems the RFL dealt with it exactly as they should have, to me. Including ignoring Apoplectic of Headingley. BTW we were at the top of St Ives yesterday when Mrs A came out with "Isn't it around here that we saw your mate teletubby?"
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Maybe Tomkins spotted some apoplectic Bulls fans who waited an hour after a recent Bulls-Wigan game to call him a cheat?
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Genuine confusion. What did I miss? |
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Maybe Tomkins spotted some apoplectic Bulls fans who waited an hour after a recent Bulls-Wigan game to call him a cheat?
Not a hint of an anti-Leeds agenda here FA.'"
"Anti-Leeds agenda"? grow up, FFS. I do not have any "agenda", and the only item on this particular menu is against the Leeds morons who booed Tomkins all game. That was not (please) note) the whole of Leeds, or even all Leeds fans.
As I unfortunately omitted to obtain individual personal details of all the booers, that's the best I can do, but had they been from anywhere else, (even Bradford) it would make no difference, as ought to be obvious; I refer to their game-long booing, not their ethnic, national or local origin. An anti-moronic-booer agenda would at least be nearer the mark, though how you can turn an observation into an agenda is something Dynamo may well be interested in. |
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