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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Kicker taken out = penalty.
That one was the worst of the lot, but Herbert was taken out 3 times in that match and got nothing.'"
Tomkins is Mother Theresa compared to Wilkin in my book. An overrated flat track bully if ever there was one. But there was nothing wrong with the tackle on Herbert.
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| Quote ="Smurf"I don't think it was late, Herbert was falling backwards when he kicked the ball and Wilkin hit him as it left his foot.
Not that it matters now, a fair draw.'"
It was high, though.
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| Quote ="ritz"Wilkin even laughed when he did it..it seemed to me like Childs got no help of his touchies at all today, touchie shoudl have had a whisper in his ear, if James over rules him then he made a mistake but ref cant see everything that goes on when theres a few players in the tackle..every ref makes mistakes and no ref can see evrything but it was right in front of touchie and its his job to look out for that kind of thing.'"
Childs seems to miss a lot IMO, was the same in the hudds game
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| Quote ="tigertot"Tomkins is Mother Theresa compared to Wilkin in my book. An overrated flat track bully if ever there was one. But there was nothing wrong with the tackle on Herbert.'"
Having watched it again, it's a hard one to call and I can see why it wouldn't be given.
But what about Wilkin's massive hit on Kearney? His knees went into Kearney first. And the smirk when he gets away with a rip really pi$$es me off!
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Having watched it again, it's a hard one to call and I can see why it wouldn't be given.
But what about Wilkin's massive hit on Kearney? His knees went into Kearney first. And the smirk when he gets away with a rip really pi$$es me off!'"
I didn't notice the knees I must say. But I did see his smirk. He really is an arrogant, cocky piece of sh it.
Trying to be more positive, the hits from Elima & Sio were absolute belters.
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| It was a penalty but Bradford deserved the win IMO.
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| Diskin is 100% right... Your first try was scored on the SEVENTH tackle!! Big influence on the game!
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| I'd give Child 5/10. Got the Lynch decision right. Missed the high tackle on Herbert but perhaps should have had more help from the TJ.
He had difficulties with the "strip or loose carry" decisions and got a few wrong. But those are difficult decisions made worse by the wet conditions. In that respect I'd bracket him with Ah Van & Burgess as not handling the conditions as well as he might.
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| Childs 8 out of 10 given the conditions.
Diskin 2 out of 10 for comments. An extra point awarded due to the emotion of the game.
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| Quote ="jonni911"Was a penalty but Wilkins should have been sin binned for the high shot on Herbert! The inconsistency p*sses me off so much!'"
Agree totally on that, no charge down, just charged at herbert and caught him flush on the chin with forearm. Disgraceful from Child & his TJ's to let that go.
Numerous erros from Child yet again, forward passes missed, strips missed and an abject failure to be consistent during the game when applying the same rules.
Cost Bradford a try by blowing up immediately after a Saints knock on when a Bulls player picked it up within a second and was clean through.
Roby could also be introuble for putting undue pressure on an opponent in a three man tackle. Missed by Child yet again.
Even James Child's Dad says he is having an awful season. Having pert time refs in a full time game simply does not work.
An enthralling game in itself and Lynch had a brain fat at the end which cost the Bulls a point. Bradford are entitled to feel hard done to purely because Child missed so many similarly obvious penalties and did nothing.
Credit to Saints for a great effort with so many players backing up. Credit to the Bulls for toughing it out after losing L'Estrange and putting themselves in a position to win against a better side.
Very harsh call to chalk off Eastmond try, just about the only thing the officials got wrong for Saints.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Childs 8 out of 10 given the conditions.
Diskin 2 out of 10 for comments. An extra point awarded due to the emotion of the game.'"
Why, did the conditions affect Child's eyesight and judgemt? he was awful decision and position wise and his TJ's were useless too. Missed everything.
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| Quote ="Hartster"Agree totally on that, no charge down, just charged at herbert and caught him flush on the chin with forearm. Disgraceful from Child & his TJ's to let that go.
Numerous erros from Child yet again, forward passes missed, strips missed and an abject failure to be consistent during the game when applying the same rules.
Cost Bradford a try by blowing up immediately after a Saints knock on when a Bulls player picked it up within a second and was clean through.
Roby could also be introuble for putting undue pressure on an opponent in a three man tackle. Missed by Child yet again.
Even James Child's Dad says he is having an awful season. Having pert time refs in a full time game simply does not work.
An enthralling game in itself and Lynch had a brain fat at the end which cost the Bulls a point. Bradford are entitled to feel hard done to purely because Child missed so many similarly obvious penalties and did nothing.
Credit to Saints for a great effort with so many players backing up. Credit to the Bulls for toughing it out after losing L'Estrange and putting themselves in a position to win against a better side.
Very harsh call to chalk off Eastmond try, =#FF0000just about the only thing the officials got wrong for Saints.'"
What about giving the opposition 7 tackles to score a try? I'd say that's wrong. Suppose you did say 'just about'...
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| When did we have 7 tackles? I think this is one of those made up things that someone said and now Saints fans are jumping on board as gospel.
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| Quote ="debaser":2d5phk6aWhen did we have 7 tackles? I think this is one of those made up things that someone said and now Saints fans are jumping on board as gospel.'" Eastmond no try decision you were awarded a 20 metre restart. In this set, Mr Child says "First, Second, Third, Third, Fourth, Last", then you scored!! INCREDIBULL!!!!!
I'll try and get a video up!
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Quote ="SaintMarshy"After the [debatable? Eastmond no try decision '"
Although we've seen similar tries given, that was NOT a try and the correct decision based on the rules.
However, had there been no video referee... Who knows.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=497407
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Quote ="SaintMarshy"After the [debatable? Eastmond no try decision '"
Although we've seen similar tries given, that was NOT a try and the correct decision based on the rules.
However, had there been no video referee... Who knows.
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=497407
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| Quote ="Hartster"Agree totally on that, no charge down, just charged at herbert and caught him flush on the chin with forearm. .'"
Looks like you have taken on the mantle of the most stupid poster on this board. Which is not easy.
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| Quote ="debaser"When did we have 7 tackles? I think this is one of those made up things that someone said and now Saints fans are jumping on board as gospel.'"
Ok ll think Ill join in with the spirit of this thread.
After Lee Gaskell had dropped that high ball(note after the ball had been spilled) one of your guys came in with a swinger plumb on his jaw. Lynch noticing he was in cloud cuckoo land then runs at him and puts the ball down to score.
Hope thats looked at just like you want Wilkins hits.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan". Lynch noticing he was in cloud cuckoo land then runs at him and puts the ball down to score.
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Name me another pro rugby player that wouldn't do the same?
Not sure about the punch on the jaw mind. You were lucky to get the point and deserved none, I'd leave it there
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Ok ll think Ill join in with the spirit of this thread.
After Lee Gaskell had dropped that high ball(note after the ball had been spilled) one of your guys came in with a swinger plumb on his jaw. Lynch noticing he was in cloud cuckoo land then runs at him and puts the ball down to score.
Hope thats looked at just like you want Wilkins hits.'"
He was poleaxed after dropping the ball, glad someone else noticed it. But it wasn't on the jaw, as you well know.
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| Quote ="ex Bull Dog"Name me another pro rugby player that wouldn't do the same?
Not sure about the punch on the jaw mind. You were lucky to get the point and deserved none, I'd leave it there'"
Not the point I was making.
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| I couldn't see a problem with what Diskin said. He expressed an opinion on the last minute penalty but did not personally attack the ref. His views on officials having too much impact were expressed in general terms and the main point he made was that players wanted refs to let the game flow more. Thought he spoke well and considering the situation his comments were well judged and well made.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Not the point I was making.'"
ok but I did also say I didn't think Gaskell was punched.
In terms of timing I don't have a problem with Wilkins hit as Ive seen a lot later not given. What I'd like to see again is where and how he struck Herbert
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| Quote ="tigertot"He was poleaxed after dropping the ball, glad someone else noticed it. But it wasn't on the jaw, as you well know.'"
Do I,looked high to me!
Aint watched It again, but the injury was caused after he'd lost the ball.
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| Quote ="Lucky Luke"I couldn't see a problem with what Diskin said. He expressed an opinion on the last minute penalty but did not personally attack the ref. His views on officials having too much impact were expressed in general terms and the main point he made was that players wanted refs to let the game flow more. Thought he spoke well and considering the situation his comments were well judged and well made.'"
Really I thought he spoke like a one eyed Bulls fan.
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| Quote ="Don Brennan"Really I thought he spoke like a one eyed Bulls fan.'"
We must have been watching a different interview
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