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| Quote ="mat"the other thing that could come into play is that if its going to take a few games to gel, then playing a couple of teams that we could realistically expect to lose to takes some pressure of the team to come out of the blocks firing on all cylinders.whereas if we had started against 'lesser' opposition there would be a greater expectation that we should win the games and If we lose due to combinations not quite clicking etc then it would have a disproportionally negative effect and take away the momentum we've built up.
To be honest I'd take 2 decent performances against leeds and wigan at this stage even if they were losses (although hopefully not heavy ones), for us to take any points out off those two games would be a bonus, albeit very welcome.'"
It's a good point, especially since, with our larger than normal number of new recruits, we'll probably take longer to 'bed in' than most. Totally agree about the Leeds and Wigan games, performance is far more important than actual wins.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"
I think if we but a lot of effort into it we could and should beat the highest opening season attendance at Odsal pre 2003 which was 17,000 for the visit of Warrington in 2000.
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The official attendance for Wakey in 2003 was 20,283.
Cant see us beating that.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"The official attendance for Wakey in 2003 was 20,283.
Cant see us beating that.'"
Yup. The "Odsal Homecoming" game. There's no way we'll beat 20,000.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"The official attendance for Wakey in 2003 was 20,283.
Cant see us beating that.'"
true but mick specifically said pre 2003.
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| Quote ="mat"true but mick specifically said pre 2003.'"
Yes, wasnt trying to correct him, just highlighting that the 2003 attendance would take some beating.
Much will depend on whether non attending season ticket holders will be counted. I know 9 people who have bought season tickets but 5 of them live/work/study away from Bradford and only one of those can get to the Wigan game.
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| Quote ="mat"true but mick specifically said pre 2003.'"
Where did you sneak off to tonight mate?
We we're getting into some heavy discussion in the small room about this seasons coming prospects.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Where did you sneak off to tonight mate?
We we're getting into some heavy discussion in the small room about this seasons coming prospects.'"
strange concept for you mick I know but as I had to drive to scotland at 5am I thought it was better option to only stay out for a couple and get an early night. Unlike you, who judging by yours posts in the early hours, took the getting ratted and then posting random rubbish on internet forums option
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| Quote ="mat"strange concept for you mick I know but as I had to drive to scotland at 5am I thought it was better option to only stay out for a couple and get an early night. Unlike you, who judging by yours posts in the early hours, took the getting ratted and then posting random rubbish on internet forums option
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| Quote ="mat"strange concept for you mick I know but as I had to drive to scotland at 5am I thought it was better option to only stay out for a couple and get an early night. Unlike you, who judging by yours posts in the early hours, took the getting ratted and then posting random rubbish on internet forums option
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To be fair to Mick, it doesn't take alcohol.
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| Quote ="tigertot"To be fair to Mick, it doesn't take alcohol.'"
True, but as he was already well on his way when I saw him sunday, and judging by his posts on various forums later that night, I'd say it had a significant effect.
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| I wouldn't go with the four forwards on the bench again like today and kind of feel had we had Sykes on the bench then at least he could of been the much needed organiser we needed out there in those final ten minutes to close the game out and ensure the two points.
As disappointed as I am over the loss to Leeds today, I really do feel that our defence and attack has improved significantly for us to give Wigan a real game at Odsal on Sunday, even more so if our kicking game was as good as it was today (minus the Briggs kick out on the full and failed kick to touch from the penalty).
I know this maybe myself taking away some of the pain from today but despite the absolute harrowing emotions, I was proud to wear the shirt and call myself a Bradford supporter today and it really does augur well for a decent season for the 2011 Bradford Bulls.
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| You know what I get the horrible feeling that we'll be seeing either Silverwood or Child at Odsal on Sunday.
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| I think Wigan will have too much for us this early in the season, but we'll give them a game and 100% effort will do fine for me.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I think Wigan will have too much for us this early in the season, but we'll give them a game and 100% effort will do fine for me.'"
Agree mate as long as the effort is there like today then I will be happy, although losing Langley for four weeks is a massive blow.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"Agree mate as long as the effort is there like today then I will be happy, although losing Langley for four weeks is a massive blow.'"
It is a blow, but it's a chance for Addy or Donno to push their way in.
We can only ask for the effort, and under Mick Potter I am certain it will be there.
Lets hope they rally round to cover for the loss of Langley.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"It is a blow, but it's a chance for Addy or Donno to push their way in.
We can only ask for the effort, and under Mick Potter I am certain it will be there.
Lets hope they rally round to cover for the loss of Langley.
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Royston/Sibbit/Donaldson'"
The team looks spot there but I feel we shouldn't go with four forwards on the bench again and even though it might be hard on Sibbit, Royston IMO should get the nod.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"The team looks spot there but I feel we shouldn't go with four forwards on the bench again and even though it might be hard on Sibbit, Royston IMO should get the nod.'"
I may be a little harsh - but I wasn't impressed with Sibbit today. Lazy in the tackle and didn't offer much in attack. He gets more than one chance from me though - especially after impressing in the friendlies.
Royston went well though, so I wouldn't mind him on the bench. I hope we give Addy or Donno the 13 spot over him though. I reckon it'll be Addy as Donno has only just returned to full training.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"I may be a little harsh - but I wasn't impressed with Sibbit today. Lazy in the tackle and didn't offer much in attack. He gets more than one chance from me though - especially after impressing in the friendlies.
Royston went well though, so I wouldn't mind him on the bench. I hope we give Addy or Donno the 13 spot over him though. I reckon it'll be Addy as Donno has only just returned to full training.'"
I've not watched the game back yet but Ganson had a long chat with him at the end of the first half.
From what I saw he wasn't holding on any longer then what the Leeds players were IMO so maybe it was something other than just being a bit slow in getting off the grounded player??
Either way he had a good solid pre-season so I won't be jumping on hate wagon any time soon.
Royston had his moments also at the start of the second setting Diskin up for us try from dummy half.
I think we'll see Sibbit, Briggs, Royston really shine against the lower caliber sides.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"
I think we'll see Sibbit, Briggs, Royston really shine against the lower caliber sides.'"
Tbh, I think we'll see Briggs shine full stop.
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| Just to add - Sykes will struggle to get a game imo with Ah Van, Platt & Walker all playing well.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Tbh, I think we'll see Briggs shine full stop.
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Main 5 to watch for me. I'd have put Elima in - but we know exactly what we'll get. Solid metres & Brutal defence
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Elima is like a machine that has tripped and won't stop.
We look completely different from last season with the new players that Potter has brought in and if the Herbert/Briggs partnership takes off then we'll be flying in no time at all and with that we'll be able to challenge the top four this season IMO as todays game showed.
I really do feel that we the right mix of players at the club at this moment in time which all holds well for exciting times ahead.
The next six games are:
Wigan Warriors (H)
Crusaders RL (A)
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Huddersfield Giants (A)
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St Helens (A)
The ones in bold I expect 110% the two points and I think most supporters would agree.
Huddersfield, St Helens and Crusaders are what I would call 50/50 games.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Just to add - Sykes will struggle to get a game imo with Ah Van, Platt & Walker all playing well.'"
Dave Halley will be the same I feel unless we have injuries
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| This is what the Wigan supporters are saying will be the 1st choice starting XVII.
FB 19 Roberts
RW 2 Goulding
RC 3 Gleeson
LC 4 Carmont
LW 25 Charnley
SO 1 Sam
SH 7 Leuluai
P 21 Mossop
H 9 McIllorum
P 10 Coley
SR 11 Hansen
SR 16 Hoffman
LF 13 O'Loughlin
S 8 Fielden
S 11 Hansen
S 15 Lima
S 22 Farrell
The loss of Deacon could be a potential gamebreaker.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Shall I start a poll - Gledhill gets banned if he whinges about the ref more than, oh, once a day?'"
I know you posted this in November mate, but I think I've been quite reserved about the events today
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| Do we know if Herbert is likely to be fit for the weekend? A massive boost for us if he is. Really looking forward to this game.
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