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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Did you go to the Cas/Hudds game? Or the Rovers/Wakey game? You can't have been at Odsal.'"
I meant the better team on paper.
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| Well here we are again, currently out of the play off picture again. A few weeks ago I was mocked for sugesting that we were in a false position when sitting in fourth. We were and yet again I get proven correct.
Another defeat for the hapless McNamara but one game closer to his departure. Every cloud has a silver lining I guess.
England RL will soon be in the doledrums. Thankfully it will soon be their problem and not ours.
Seven straight losses???? Totally unacceptable.
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| I don't know why you're all bemoaning Worrincy and Sherriffe when we have that shower of that is Paul Sykes on the field.
Absolute garbage yet again, gifting Hull FC three tries in the first half with his inept defending, complete lack of pace and shocking passes that people like Yeaman will eat up every day of the week.
Addy for 6 next week, we won't improve as long as this waste of space is on the pitch.
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| Olbison had a great game in the u20s, I hope he takes Worrincy's place next week.
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| Quote ="Nothus"I don't know why you're all bemoaning Worrincy and Sherriffe when we have that shower of poop that is Paul Sykes on the field.
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Sykes is utter w@nk. But he aint alone. Glad we gave him another three year deal eh?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"
Also, if Tickle wasn't such a time-wasting ba$tard then we'd have had a couple more plays to get over at the end.
Good away support from Hull aswell.'"
you do realise smith stops the clock at each conversion so that is a bit ireelevant
game of two halves today, fc the better 1st, bulls the 2nd, some of your play and passes were shocking in the first half!! main culprit being sykes
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| Quote ="number 6"you do realise smith stops the clock at each conversion so that is a bit ireelevant'"
It's not irrelevant if he takes 40 seconds to stop it.
He wants to take a leaf out of Ganson's book and stop it after about 10 seconds.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"It's not irrelevant if he takes 40 seconds to stop it.
He wants to take a leaf out of Ganson's book and stop it after about 10 seconds.'"
so you're blaming defeat on tickles goalkicking timing, he is playing by the rules, using what time the ref allows him, it's not his fault!
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| Thought Addy showed what he's capable of today and he looks a great prospect.
The side looked far more enthusiastic in the second half but unfortunately the first half we weren't sharp enough.
Rather than whine on we should remember we're playing without any recognised halfbacks. Sykes makes a fair few errors but we have to remember he's playing out of position, as such his efforts are likely to lead to mistakes. Also our backline lacks any real class in the threequarters too, as such we're not as clinical as we need to be.
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| I know we still had 20 mins to go at this point but why didn't we opt for the drop goal at 22-22?
Academic now I suppose.
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| Quote ="number 6"so you're blaming defeat on tickles goalkicking timing, '"
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Hopefully we can kick on and get back in the 8.
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| Rikki and Mike W both run back to tackle a man and both miss him, both were rubbish again. Never mind good second half you can't play for only 25mins in a game that lasts for 80 and expect a result. Every team we play now kick to Rikki after watching him in the CC against Wire
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| After watching a poor and lacklustre performance in the first half it was difficult to see how we could come back in the second half, however, a spell of 15mins saw us have Hull on the rack with more than good chance of getting the points with some fast and hard play which is the way it should have stayed. Macca takes the decision to take 2 best players off at that time and replaces one of the with Worrency what a total disaster the man is a hobbit, I have seen a girl guide give more commitment to a team and club. Subsequently Hull score and you guessed it Worrency contributes to the try.
This decision by the manager combined with leaving a man on the bench without even touching a game ball last week leaves me to question his train of thought.
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| Quote ="Minorman"Rikki and Mike W both run back to tackle a man and both miss him, both were rubbish again. Never mind good second half you can't play for only 25mins in a game that lasts for 80 and expect a result. Every team we play now kick to Rikki after watching him in the CC against Wire'"
How many kicks did Rikki drop?
I take it you were getting a pint when he put Whitehead through a gap then backed him up superbly?
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| The next 3 fixtures are must win games.
Looking at the teams around the 8 position these are the next 3 games for each team:
Bradford Could take all 6 points.
Harlequins (Away)
Salford (Home)
Hull KR (Away)
Castleford Could take 4 points.
Warrington
Wakefield
Crusaders
Crusaders 2/4 points
Huddersfield
Catalans
Castleford
Wakefield 2 points
Hull FC
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| Quote ="dddooommm"
Bradford Could take all 6 points.
Harlequins (Away)
Salford (Home)
Hull KR (Away)
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Yes, and they could lose all three games too.
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| Quote ="dddooommm"The next 3 fixtures are must win games.
Looking at the teams around the 8 position these are the next 3 games for each team:
Bradford Could take all 6 points.
Harlequins (Away)
Salford (Home)
Hull KR (Away)
Castleford Could take 4 points.
Warrington
Wakefield
Crusaders
Crusaders 2/4 points
Huddersfield
Catalans
Castleford
Wakefield 2 points
Hull FC
Castleford
Saints'"
Or more likley reverse the order and points and you won't be far off the mark! I seriously can't see where our next win will come from....
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| Quins away is very dubious. You never know how the Quins will play (and us to some extent) but if we were to win next week and back it up with a win against Salford, then we will be able to go into the KR game with some momentum at least.
Massive game next week.
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| Pure optimism on my part.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Sykes makes a fair few errors but we have to remember he's playing out of position, as such his efforts are likely to lead to mistakes. '"
Isn't he playing 'out of position' because we bought a fullback to play stand off (Kearney)? Everyone said he was a fullback and then Macca realised that and given we had no other recognised stand off other than Sykes (a fullback), we then we moved our existing stand off back to fullback, and our other fullback back to stand off!!!!!
It's that type of management/coaching that leaves me speechless. Yes, we've been hit by injuries, but the situation with Sykes was predictable at the start of the season.
Not to mention his bench policy which is inexplicable to anyone but himself presumably, maybe it's a fault on the player monitoring equipment, maybe when they're playing well and have some momentum their heart rate goes up, so he subs them! Or perhaps Addy got so excited last week sitting on the bench that he blew a fuse in Macca's laptop and so he couldn't bring himself to send him on. Honestly, if anyone can explain, justify or rationalise his interchange strategy they should be given the freedom of Bradford! Thank heaven he's leaving.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Thought Addy showed what he's capable of today and he looks a great prospect.
The side looked far more enthusiastic in the second half but unfortunately the first half we weren't sharp enough.
Rather than whine on we should remember we're playing without any recognised halfbacks. Sykes makes a fair few errors but we have to remember he's playing out of position, as such his efforts are likely to lead to mistakes. Also our backline lacks any real class in the threequarters too, as such we're not as clinical as we need to be.'"
Is he playing out of position. He finished lst season their and was moved their this season early on.
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| If McDermott is announced as our new coach this week then hopefully he'll let us win
It wouldn't be a great start, the week after he's announced as our coach he beats us
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| First half dire. Like...dire. Second half a different team. Came out on a mission, and really went for it. Helps when you speed up the PTB (and needed to given how quick Hull seemed to be out of the blocks every time, esp Usain Bolt Fitzgibbon) and run from dummy half a bit. Shame we could not turn all that pressure into more tries - we had enough field position that second half to win the game. Once again don't think we had the rub of some of the crucial decisions - even the normally objective folk behind me were calling the officials all sorts of bad things. But we put enough pressure on their line to win it, and probably blew the game with a handful of dumb plays, and crap first-half defence gifting them tries?
Big rap to the likes of Platty and Koppy. And the young kids did good. Addy is looking like another one like Whitehead we had better get signed up on a better contract ASAP.
But still another loss - close, but again no cigar. Its going to take one hell of an effort now.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"First half dire. Like...dire. Second half a different team. Came out on a mission, and really went for it. Helps when you speed up the PTB (and needed to given how quick Hull seemed to be out of the blocks every time, esp Usain Bolt Fitzgibbon) and run from dummy half a bit. Shame we could not turn all that pressure into more tries - we had enough field position that second half to win the game. Once again don't think we had the rub of some of the crucial decisions - even the normally objective folk behind me were calling the officials all sorts of bad things. But we put enough pressure on their line to win it, and probably blew the game with a handful of dumb plays, and crap first-half defence gifting them tries?
Big rap to the likes of Platty and Koppy. And the young kids did good. Addy is looking like another one like Whitehead we had better get signed up on a better contract ASAP.
But still another loss - close, but again no cigar. Its going to take one hell of an effort now.'"
Adey these things will even themselves out come the play-offs so don't worry too much about the referees and what they do or don't give against us mate.
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| Unless there is a dramatic increase in performance then we may well be better missing out on the 8 anyway. We won't win a play off game with our current form. Obviously I want to see us win as many as possible, but I have little interest in seeing us make up the numbers.
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