But who knows if it is a domestic violence case? Papers say a lot of things, some of true, some of it utter rubbish. Until he is found guilty then nobody can say that and she has publically stated that she is not happy with how the case has been handled so i think that innocent until proven guilty should be observed. If he is guilty then i think signing him could be dodgy but if he is actually innocent then his character has been tainted for no reason.

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Bird & Jeffries sounds a whole lot better.

It does to me too.

Wellla bird bird bird. Bird is the word. Awella bird bird bbbird's the word. Don't you know about the bird? Well everybody knows that the bird is the word. Awella bird bird bird is the word. Well everybody's talk about the bird.

sorry. got a bit excited there.

Well for all those saying we had no cover in the halves I guess this is it. He was nailed on to come to Wigan but they couldn't get Phelps to get lost.

He looks class but I guess this court case leaves the whole thing in limbo. He's pleading not guilty and the 'victim' is supporting him.

God, I hope he was having a beer, she slipped and he tried to catch her and it's all a terrible misunderstanding.......your honour.

very mixed feelings about this one. if it's like beechwood says and was accidental then I'd have no prob with signing but it was intentional then I'd have a problem with this signing. Also not sure if its worth risk for a one year deal - 3year deal would be better to give some continuity.

I'd guess the deal would have release clauses in it should he be found guilty and face any prison time. I'd also expect it to be a 1yr deal with an option for a 2nd.

but I agree 3 years would be a better deal for bradford.

i do hope this doesn't all fall flat mind.

Sorry, I forgot you were there when she was hurt so know exactly what has happened.

This would be a massive signing and would certainly boost our chances for honours.

Given the severe lack of availability of quality players (half backs in particular), this is a huge capture, albeit for only a year. It gives us a full season to look around for a potential replacement.

His off field antics is a difficult one. Firstly, No one really knows the FULL story, so who are we to judge, secondly has no one else ever made an error of judgement? Don't get me wrong, I am not condoning these types of actions for one minute, I'm just pointing out that maybe he deeply regrets what happened. Have any of you asked him?

On balance this could be the making of '09. It certainly got my pulse racing reading the thread title!

Wont come to us, we only sign ageing aussies or average players from mid table teams, too good for us.

As mentioned earlier, we don't know for sure what his off field problems are, he could be leaving those behind in Australia.

What we do know is how talented he is, this would be a fantastic signing!

Get in there. Really rate this guy from what ive seen of him. If we have signed him i belive we will be strong candidates for the super league.

after digging further the only mention of 1 year deals is in the posts in this topic. None off the newspaper reports mention the length of deal. If we could get him on a 3 year deal then our prospects suddenly look a lot healthier. Think a lot of people have just assumed a 1 year deal cos of length he cant be registered in NRL.

Just as a side thought - given our over weakness in the , could jeffries be an option there? certainly got speed and decent hands. bird and deacon halves, nero and sykes and menzies/jeffries as cover for both positions looks a lot healthier than position a couple of weeks ago

I think Jeffries is too weak a defender to be considered for centre.

When I saw him on TV he played 13 IIRC and was very good. If Langley is going to prop then that's the other option.

I'd be surprised if we're only signing him for one year as that would be Sol, Morro, Menzies, Bird and Jeffries all off contract at the same time.

Agree.
He would be exremely exposed

was thinking more in terms of injury cover as opposed to every week.

I'm hopeful that Nero can rediscover his Giants form next year anyway, that would be a big bonus for the side.

Bird and Deacon at 6 and 7 behind our awesome pack changes everything. I really hope we see a big year from Nero to, hope he gets his Giants form back.

If this signing goes through then I would have to applaud Mr McNamara for making a top class signing for us and give credit where it is due. It is all fair and good for me to be (very) critical of his failings but when a positive signing is made (at least on paper anyway) then it is only fair that a bit of credit is given when it is due.

As Dilligaf rightly says, at this stage he has not even been convicted of anything and, as such, we should not really speculate too much on the case and hopefully get the chance to welcome a class act into our side, a player who will greatly improve our side should he be in the correct state of mind (and the paperwork goes through!)

IIRC however, his name was bandied about on here before and there were a few dissenting voices due to his (alledged) off-field problems. I wonder if these opinions will change if he turns out to be a star in RAB?

Anyway, I realise that some people will have a pop at me for this (whats new?

) but I am not really too concerned about what he does off the field, as long as he is doing the business ON the field. After all, I am sure a few on here would like to see Leon back and he is hardly an unblemished character. (and his was proven) I am also pretty sure that few Saints fans care too much about what he gets up to in his spare time either.

Fingers crossed it all goes through. Some genuine quality will be added to our side and I for one, would love to see a Bird and Beaver lining up next to each other on the pitch.



Well done Mr McNamara.

Yes he did IMO he's a quality 13 who can play stand off fairly well.

Its not his wife/girlfriends decision.
If the state feel there is enough evidence to prosecute they can.
Added to that he is facing two other charges.

The comments seem to be on the April case. Has the march case been resolved?

Re the bigger case What the girlfriend said at the time of the accident plus bird calling a friend and asking him to take the blame does not help.

The girlfriend has 'withdrawn' her comments so it is interesting that the prosecutors are still going ahead. The prosecution are calling 17 witnesses and the defence 6.

Only being found guilty on one of the charges would automatically stop Bird getting a w-p. the other two may not bar him.

all said he is a brilliant player.