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| However, he's injured at the moment. Hopefully, he can be fit for the start of the season
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| Here's the link
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/bradford-bulls/Sculthorpe-set-to-be-unleashed.5978324.jp[/url
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| Quote ="Mission"Here's the link
[urlhttp://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/bradford-bulls/Sculthorpe-set-to-be-unleashed.5978324.jp[/url'"
Sculthorpe & unleashed are not 2 words I would automatically associate with each other.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Sculthorpe & unleashed are not 2 words I would automatically associate with each other.'"
What would you expect?
Unravelled?
Unfed?
Undressed?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"What would you expect?
Unravelled?
Unfed?
Undressed?'"
Under-achieved. Or Useless for most of his career.
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| If I were a Bulls fan I'd be quite worried about the petulant and childish outburst from this oaf. Just a few flaws in his argument.
1: Why bother having a pop, why not show the same dignity as Kear and keep quiet and move on. When he rang Kear up BEFORE Cas were relegated in 2006 begging for another shot in SL was he so brave. He doesn't owe Kear his career but considering he threw him a life line when he needed it most a little decorum wouldn't go amiss.
2: Only six bottles! When it's an outright ban on drinking how do you come up with the term "only"! Or did he think he was so special it didn't apply to him.
3: Too regimented - read did not want to do as I was told by a coach who knows far more than him or turn up and train properly. McNamara will get walked over.
4: Much travelled, says it all.
5: Fined £1,900 - a weeks wages - and he wasn't happy earning that for playing a sport he allegedly loves. Even more so when he barely managed more than 15 games a season. Says all you need to know about this big fat baby.
Very few players who have left BV have I wished misfortune upon. I even wished Sol the best unhappy though I was at the manner of his departure. This oaf however I wish no good fortune at all, vile person that he is.
You have signed a bad one.
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| Unreliable
Undisciplined
Uncouth
Ungrateful
Unfit
But! Think he could do a job if you manage to get the best out of him - not a bad player on his day, but to throw his teddy out of the pram like that just makes him look like a pillock.
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| Quote ="vastman"If I were a Bulls fan I'd be quite worried about the petulant and childish outburst from this oaf. Just a few flaws in his argument.
1: Why bother having a pop, why not show the same dignity as Kear and keep quiet and move on. When he rang Kear up BEFORE Cas were relegated in 2006 begging for another shot in SL was he so brave. He doesn't owe Kear his career but considering he threw him a life line when he needed it most a little decorum wouldn't go amiss.
2: Only six bottles! When it's an outright ban on drinking how do you come up with the term "only"! Or did he think he was so special it didn't apply to him.
3: Too regimented - read did not want to do as I was told by a coach who knows far more than him or turn up and train properly. McNamara will get walked over.
4: Much travelled, says it all.
5: Fined £1,900 - a weeks wages - and he wasn't happy earning that for playing a sport he allegedly loves. Even more so when he barely managed more than 15 games a season. Says all you need to know about this big fat baby.
Very few players who have left BV have I wished misfortune upon. I even wished Sol the best unhappy though I was at the manner of his departure. This oaf however I wish no good fortune at all, vile person that he is.
You have signed a bad one.'"
To be honest, when we signed him I reckoned he was a shiite signing. After you have written all this though I reckon he will be a good one given your past record of talking complete and utter .
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| Quote ="vastman"If I were a Bulls fan I'd be quite worried about the petulant and childish outburst from this oaf. Just a few flaws in his argument.
1: Why bother having a pop, why not show the same dignity as Kear and keep quiet and move on. When he rang Kear up BEFORE Cas were relegated in 2006 begging for another shot in SL was he so brave. He doesn't owe Kear his career but considering he threw him a life line when he needed it most a little decorum wouldn't go amiss.
2: Only six bottles! When it's an outright ban on drinking how do you come up with the term "only"! Or did he think he was so special it didn't apply to him.
3: Too regimented - read did not want to do as I was told by a coach who knows far more than him or turn up and train properly. McNamara will get walked over.
4: Much travelled, says it all.
5: Fined £1,900 - a weeks wages - and he wasn't happy earning that for playing a sport he allegedly loves. Even more so when he barely managed more than 15 games a season. Says all you need to know about this big fat baby.
Very few players who have left BV have I wished misfortune upon. I even wished Sol the best unhappy though I was at the manner of his departure. This oaf however I wish no good fortune at all, vile person that he is.
You have signed a bad one.'"
There are parallels between it and Newton's parting shots the other way
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"There are parallels between it and Newton's parting shots the other way'"
Took the words right out of my mouth. But in a computer writing sense....
Vastman, how do you feel about having a (in your words) "childish oaf" as your new hooker?
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| So it's Kear's fault that the genius that is Sculthorpe wasn't unleashed on the pitch. Bearing in mind that we finished higher than everyone expected (5th place, in case you'd forgotten), I think it could be safely assumed that Kear's judgement was the correct one.
Not being fond of tough training does not seem to be a great quality to take to a club.
In case you have trouble spotting him, he's the bloke who ambles ten meters, and when he is in the tackle throws out wild passes, some of which work, some of which land your team in trouble. Leave it to Solomona, Scully.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"So it's Kear's fault that the genius that is Sculthorpe wasn't unleashed on the pitch. Bearing in mind that we finished higher than everyone expected (5th place, in case you'd forgotten), I think it could be safely assumed that Kear's judgement was the correct one.
Not being fond of tough training does not seem to be a great quality to take to a club.
In case you have trouble spotting him, he's the bloke who ambles ten meters, and when he is in the tackle throws out wild passes, some of which work, some of which land your team in trouble. Leave it to Solomona, Scully.'"
So the coach of the side that finished 3rd doesn't have a clue?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"So the coach of the side that finished 3rd doesn't have a clue?'"
And Nathan Brown was keen to sign him? Don't see him in Huddersfield this season. It was an arrangement that suited both, because it meant that it gave match time for Korkidas and we off-loaded Sculthorpe.
Good luck to you. McNamara may make it work. But not being fond of strict training is not a great character reference for a professional athlete.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"And Nathan Brown was keen to sign him? Don't see him in Huddersfield this season. It was an arrangement that suited both, because it meant that it gave match time for Korkidas and we off-loaded Sculthorpe.
Good luck to you. McNamara may make it work. But not being fond of strict training is not a great character reference for a professional athlete.'"
I've heard nathan brown mention a couple of times that they were looking at extending Sculthorpe's stay, but we came in with a better offer. I'm not saying he's anything near a world beater, but he'll do a good job and he's not as bad as you are making out.
If he's that bad, why did Hudds want him over Korki?
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| Opinion was fairly divided at Wakey even before he fell out with the club. I thought he was a pudding then and I still do, who always looked out of shape and, coincidentally, was constantly injured. Others thought he was a talented player who had been unlucky with injury. What is obvious is that he doesn't like training.
As for Nathan Brown, I'm sure he would have taken him if he was cheap enough. Again, not being prepared to pay his "market value" is hardly a ringing endorsement.
I may well be proved wrong and he may be a world-beater. He is a similar player in style to Solomona, except that Solomona oozed class both at Wakey and Bradford, whereas Sculthorpe is waiting to realise his promise somewhat late in his career. Mind you, paraphrasing Sculthorpe, maybe the genius that is McNamara can unlock the potential in the genius that is Sculthorpe.
Interesting quotes:
on the alcohol ban: "I had six bottles of beer on the bus"
on being a professional athlete: "it was very regimented at Wakefield like you were back at school and you couldn't enjoy yourself"
Good luck
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| Some interesting comments from the Wakey lot on here, which is out of character. There's no doubt Sculthorpe has talent, he's probably more similar to old school props than anyone in SL, but no player has as many clubs as him unless there are issues. He says he only had 6 beers, I'm sure at the time he said it was only 2. When Cas signed Newlove I said he wouldn't play 10 games, I am really looking forward to how many more Macca gets out of tubs.
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| Your right in saying that in his (or his dads) original defence he said he had 2 beers - but nows it's six bottles on an alcohol free bus. So you can add not truthful to the list of his attributes. On the field he can produce the goods on some occasions but fell short on many others and picked up lots of injuries whilst at wakey. He may play really well for Bradford or not - I can'tsee in to the future so guess we will just have to wait
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"So the coach of the side that finished 3rd doesn't have a clue?'"
He certainly does have a clue, thats why you have him and Hudds dont If anybody does not have a clue its your coach. Now where have I heard that before
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| Quote ="chissitt"He certainly does have a clue, thats why you have him and Hudds dont'"
Except it's not. Huddersfield apparently did make him an offer.
Do the Wakey fans think it's coincidence that they happen to fall out with so many players? Off the top of my head, Solomona, Darrell Griffin and Sculthorpe have all come in for some right abuse after they left Wakefield. There's probably more too. And when I say abuse, I mean worse than you see at other clubs when players leave (with the occasional exception).
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Except it's not. Huddersfield apparently did make him an offer.
Do the Wakey fans think it's coincidence that they happen to fall out with so many players? Off the top of my head, Solomona, Darrell Griffin and Sculthorpe have all come in for some right abuse after they left Wakefield. There's probably more too. And when I say abuse, I mean worse than you see at other clubs when players leave (with the occasional exception).'"
I would have thought Griffin left before Kear joined & Slowmoaner not long after, so it might be harsh on Kear. There is an impressive list of quality players who have chosen to leave Bradford for various reasons over the last few years come to think of it.
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| Quote ="tigertot"I would have thought Griffin left before Kear joined & Slowmoaner not long after, so it might be harsh on Kear. There is an impressive list of quality players who have chosen to leave Bradford for various reasons over the last few years come to think of it.'"
It wasn't aimed at Kear, it was aimed at the fans that seem to throw loads of abuse at more players that leave than any other club's fans do.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"It wasn't aimed at Kear, it was aimed at the fans that seem to throw loads of abuse at more players that leave than any other club's fans do.'"
I suppose it depends how they leave, Sid Domic left and the fans welcomed him back, Ollie Elima left and the fans at Wakey still chant his name, would have thought it was the same at most clubs.
As for Scully, he broke the players code (the one they made to honour Adam Watene) would not apologise and accept the punishment, so thats enough for me.
Solomona, now he's the one i could never work out, bust a gutt for us, played through the pain barrier to keep us up. Promised to stay then left at the first chance and that split opinion down the middle.
Griffin spends a lot of time at BV with other players and fans, also attended Watene funds events and seemed quite happy mixing with fans, maybe its just a few on here who give of the impression that Wakey fans throw more abuse than others.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"I suppose it depends how they leave, Sid Domic left and the fans welcomed him back, Ollie Elima left and the fans at Wakey still chant his name, would have thought it was the same at most clubs.
As for Scully, he broke the players code (the one they made to honour Adam Watene) would not apologise and accept the punishment, so thats enough for me.
Solomona, now he's the one i could never work out, bust a gutt for us, played through the pain barrier to keep us up. Promised to stay then left at the first chance and that split opinion down the middle.
Griffin spends a lot of time at BV with other players and fans, also attended Watene funds events and seemed quite happy mixing with fans, maybe its just a few on here who give of the impression that Wakey fans throw more abuse than others.'"
I was quite a regular on the Huddersfield board at the time Griffin moved and there were loads of fans on and from the Wakey Forum slagging "teapot" off. It all stemmed from something he said to a fan or did to a fan, but I forget the details of that.
I'm not saying it's done to every player, just seems like it's done more to people who leave Wakefield than any other club I've noticed.
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| Now I agree Wakey fans boo opposing teams & refs more than any other, but can't say I've noticed additional bitterness.
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