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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"It would make sense for Sheffield to buy the "franchise" of Bradford, as they already have a half-decent championship team but nowhere to call home.
Surely that team would do better playing as Bradford (not Sheffield), at Odsal, and as an existing club they wouldn't have the 12 point deduction. Otherwise they are a dead club walking.
Seems like a possible win-win to me as a decent team at Odsal would surely be sustainable and Sheffield have had many years of financial prudence.'"
They've already been royally humped by Hudds. You can't wish that on them again
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| Quote ="Scarey71"They've already been royally humped by Hudds. You can wish that on them again
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I think he was being ironic.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Well I for one am pretty convinced the RFL and some bidder must have a Plan B because otherwise what they are proposing makes no sense, it would be crazy to pitch a brand new club with no players or staff in at the proposed level. Just crazy. Couldn't work.'"
Well we've a week or so to find out if there's any substance to it.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Read it again "professional sport" not professional club. Big difference in the numbers.'"
It was still a ridiculously stupid statement. It is an unfortunate current fashion to make hysterical, OTT statements. I could excuse the odd Bulls fan making extreme responses to the situation, but almost to a person they have shown incredible restraint. So why you are trying to impress people with hyperbole is beyond me.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I think he was being ironic.'"
Make sense, in this mood I couldn't spot it...
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| I think the RFL deal will have small print "But must play at Odsall"
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| So another millstone for any potential new owner.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"It would make sense for Sheffield to buy the "franchise" of Bradford, as they already have a half-decent championship team but nowhere to call home.
Surely that team would do better playing as Bradford (not Sheffield), at Odsal, and as an existing club they wouldn't have the 12 point deduction. Otherwise they are a dead club walking.
Seems like a possible win-win to me as a decent team at Odsal would surely be sustainable and Sheffield have had many years of financial prudence.'"
Indeed, and its not as if Sheffield have previous for being a baptism for new clubs - Shuddersfield. So how about Bradshef Beagles?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"So another millstone for any potential new owner.'"
Well this is where the whole leasehold/freehold/redevelopment thing comes in. If there's no sweetner available to do something money making with some of the land then there is no point, but if this now opens up other avenues then who knows - it could still work out.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"My reaction to this comes from a place of paranoia, I will admit it. Its a result of being on the bad end of RFLs favouritism of certain clubs for several years. We get denied a franchise for years when clubs like Broncos and Celtic are given every advantage and squander it. I can't help but imagine the assurances they will have given the new owners in private. It wouldn't surprise me at all if it emerged that you weren't able to be relegated for two seasons, as you are a newly formed expansion club "expanding" down the M606. That is how much I trust the RFL, nothing at all to do with Bradford. You are just the latest "benificiarys" of the RFL's make it up as you go along approach.
The game is dying on its booty because the RFL are the most incompetent administrators of professional sport in the world. They make Fifa look like a well run machine. The situation you find yourselves in today attests to that.'" its not paranoia, it just gets more cringe worthy as the same game goes on, how the RFL and show their faces and spurt the utter drivel is beyond me, while I don't want to see the bull disappear all it does is again show favouritism to a team that are going to struggle from day one of this season coming up, common sense you start at the very bottom and build from there, funny how we was threatened with league 1 a few years ago my gripe is not with bradford bulls fans its with the RFL I hope anyone who wants to argue the point understands this if not then they are a dim wit
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| Quote ="Scarey71"They've already been royally humped by Hudds. You can't wish that on them again
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Well, their own city has shown it doesn't really want them. They knocked the ground down for starters !
They seem a decent set of players and are strongly led by Mark Aston. They would surely do better becoming bradford than by playing as sheffield but at wakey.
What future do they really have ? Moving to Bradford could be a lifesaver and as I said, they ain't too shabby a side.
Not a thinly-disguised "merger" though - they would quite rightly be Bradford
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| Quote ="Bullseye"So another millstone for any potential new owner.'"
I thought that the availability for purchase of Odsal was a pretty much universal condition demanded by the main interested people, and before them, even Green, when he was pretending he had the cash and the ability to run a whelk stall. Odsal seemed to be the thing that made it work. The RFL must have in principle already agreed to whatever plans these people had for the place and the team?
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| I'm not sure how this RFL solution is showing us favouritism! No club, no players, no coach, no ground, no kit no pot to pi55 in. And probably two weeks to scamble something together that will most likely get stuffed every week before being relegated, if we're lucky.
Some favouritism.
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| Quote ="snowie"my gripe is not with bradford bulls fans its with the RFL I hope anyone who wants to argue the point understands this if not then they are a dim wit'"
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| Quote ="snowie"its not paranoia, it just gets more cringe worthy as the same game goes on, how the RFL and show their faces and spurt the utter drivel is beyond me, while I don't want to see the bull disappear all it does is again show favouritism to a team that are going to struggle from day one of this season coming up, common sense you start at the very bottom and build from there, funny how we was threatened with league 1 a few years ago
my gripe is not with bradford bulls fans its with the RFL I hope anyone who wants to argue the point understands this if not then they are a dim wit'"
So go and gripe at the RFL. I'm sure there's an email address on their website. Tell them what a set of bent wazzocks they are. We've heard it til we're blue in the teeth.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I thought that the availability for purchase of Odsal was a pretty much universal condition demanded by the main interested people, and before them, even Green, when he was pretending he had the cash and the ability to run a whelk stall. Odsal seemed to be the thing that made it work. The RFL must have in principle already agreed to whatever plans these people had for the place and the team?'"
Well I guess we might soon find out.
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| I don't know why everyone is confident about our new owner being Plan B. As far as I know he has no interest in RL (although I realise it didn't stop MG)
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| Quote ="snowie"its not paranoia, it just gets more cringe worthy as the same game goes on, how the RFL and show their faces and spurt the utter drivel is beyond me, while I don't want to see the bull disappear all it does is again show favouritism to a team that are going to struggle from day one of this season coming up, common sense you start at the very bottom and build from there, funny how we was threatened with league 1 a few years ago
my gripe is not with bradford bulls fans its with the RFL I hope anyone who wants to argue the point understands this if not then they are a dim wit'"
If you want drivel, you're the guy madly writing about "showing favouritism" on the board of fans who as of lunchtime today have nothing, no club, no players, no coach, nothing, zero, zilch. You appear to be a specialist in drivel.
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Its ok, we will comfort ourselves with the three new players we have just signed.'"
and if you have what a joke your club has been asking all the players to take wage cuts!!! how will they feel, need to cut your own cloth accordingley
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| Quote ="Bullseye"I'm not sure how this RFL solution is showing us favouritism! No club, no players, no coach, no ground, no kit no pot to pi55 in. And probably two weeks to scamble something together that will most likely get stuffed every week before being relegated, if we're lucky.
Some favouritism.'"
The RFL are doing their best to protect their interest, simple as!
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| As a sports facility, even when the Bulls were at their height, the land must have been pretty worthless. It was only the heritage that kept it going. Surely this is the opportunity for the Council & RFL to get rid of the lease & use it for more profitable purposes. I know it is a former tip, that is not necessarily beyond resolving. The Bulls Phoenix playing at a shared stadium. I would miss Odsal but would rather watch professional RL somewhere in Bradford than none at all.
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| I'm not in the know but i'd say that Irvine and Lamb are waiting in the background, as well as others?
how well financed and well organised they are is to be proved.
We could have done without a 12 point deduction, but are yet to find out what money we have and who's staying and who's going yet.
If the new owner has a bit of cash you never know we could maybe replace some of those on the way out.
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The RFL are doing their best to protect their interest, simple as!'"
Other clubs would be wise to remember that if the RFL lose their financial interest in Odsal they can kiss goodbye to fireworks after the Grand Final. And no pre-match Craig Charles either. Careful what you wish for.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"If you want drivel, you're the guy madly writing about "showing favouritism" on the board of fans who as of lunchtime today have nothing, no club, no players, no coach, nothing, zero, zilch. You appear to be a specialist in drivel.'" no I'll leave that to you pal, lets see how long it is before it all hunky dory again
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