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| No excuses really, Hull FC were dying for a win and they wanted it more than us. Agar gets the fans off his back for another week and we go back to square one.
We really missed Langley, Elima & Scruton tonight. We seemed to tire in the last 15 minutes and we weren't helped by the sinbinning of Sibbit. I think if we have a fit squad Sibbit won't be getting a look in.
After a fantastic start we let them back into the game, why we couldn't kick on and put a few more scores on I don't know. We lacked composure in the final third and yet again put down too much ball which contributed to our own downfall. It's really frustrating but I still believe we'll get it right eventually and we are showing glimpses that we can turn it on when we need to. It's a shame we can't pull together a decent 80 mins (similar to the Leeds game at MM) every week.
Big game next week away at Salford.
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| Think some people are being harsh towards Mick Potter.
Whilst we may not be firing on all cylinders, we are definately playing better than the previous two years with McBanana in charge.
I have full confidence that we will make the play-offs this year but we need to admit that we are still some way off competing at the top end of the league. I don't think that will come until 2012 at the earliest.
On tonghts game, it could have been a different story had we not fluffed the drop goal (perhaps a grubber into the goal area would have been more sensible?), even after all the penalties.
One thing I do agree with is that Sibbitt is garbage and shouldn't be anywhere near a Bulls shirt!!!
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| Catalans winning at Wigan really does put the pressure on us to retain our top 8 position. We MUST beat Salford next week to gain a bit of momentum to carry into the Easter period.
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| TBH, Wigan seem to be blowing hot and cold this year.
Lot of expectation on them to be some sort of unbeatable side and that sort of pressure can blunt a side to an extent.
Quite annoying that Catalands seem to be picking up momentum coming up to easter, and Leeds is going to be a massive ask. But the team is still a work in progress and the injuries we had going into the game as well as those picked up tonight are going to cause problems for any team.
All in all, I'm concerned with the fact that we aren't producing any consistent form, but I understand the reasons for it. Hopefully we'll get a clean bill of health for the whole team before then end of summer and we can start showing what we can do.
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| as a hull fan, i wouldn't be too upset with your loss tonight, even if you did benefit from one or two howlers from sharp you have some very good and exciting players, young tom burgess will be a top player this time next season imo, like one of the above posters said, you seemed to tire towards the end
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| Can't fault the effort from the team tonight but still not quite taking the right options at times and it's proving costly. I was pleased with the pack tonight, they did better than I expected with us fielding a young backrow of Whitehead, Olbison and Donaldson. Koppy carried on his great form and made good yards all night. Tom Burgess also coped well despite some attempted big hits from the Hull pack.
The defence remains a worry outwide, we look so vulnerable when the ball is quickly shipped out. A centre recruit has to be a priority for next year or before if someone suitable becomes available.
Not too despondent, with some of our better defenders out it was always likely to be a tough ask.
Good to see Briggs warming up, he can't be far off being available for selection once again.
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| We're our own worst enemies at times. We lost that game ourselves - if we keep giving penalties away late in the tackle count then we'll keep losing.
Some good rugby played in patches, but some poor stuff too. Defence & discipline are the 2 main areas to work on this week I feel.
We are still very much a work in progress, and I'll judge our defence properly when we have Scrutes, Langers & Elima available.
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| Good performance was impressed by our tries, Ainscough kick was brill Also they high tackled Ainscough (should have been a yellow) and did 2 professional fouls (should both be yellow) and although it wouldn't have changed the result but how the hell did the ref not see Hull knock on from the scrum???
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| From where I was sat it was pretty easy to see how the ref and even the linesman missed the knockon from the base of the scrum, both had 12 blokes between their vision and the ball. The in goal official however cannot have missed it. If this is the case, what is his relevence to general play?
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| Once again we lose the penalty count and again it's the same players giving them away.
Sibbit came on and within 60 seconds he had Thaler blowing up for holding down and then again two minutes later, before a third penalty and ten minutes in the bin.
The penalties and high error count (12) are what lost us the game tonight.
Our left hand side D and overall sliding defence was non existent tonight and it's worth pointing out that had any other Hull player bar Radford been in support for the Will Sharp run then the game would have been over by half time.
Fitzgibon and Tickle had our number from the kick off.
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| Quote ="Mick Gledhill"
Fitzgibon and Tickle had our number from the kick off.'"
Mark O'Meley caused us alot of problems too. It's like our lads don't expect a prop to pass - they all go in to tackle, he gets the pass away and it caused havoc.
Defence really needs work.
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| The game could have gone either way tonight, couple of very close calls, Sykes being called back for a forward pass from Ah Van when he'd have been under the posts and 18-0 up and game over. The other being the pass for Yeaman's try that got them back in the game, it looked forward on the replay shown on the screen. The decisive try came from a botched kick that was so lucky it ended up with Fitzgibbon and an overlap outside. We lost to a decent Hull side that is poorly coached, couple of 50/50's went against us and we lost, nothing to do with being not good enough.
Sibbit on the other hand is a penalty machine, and Obst should have been at least sin binned for his head shot on Ainscough.
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| Another Away day defeat. Not really happy about it, but can't expect much else. We simply dont have enough real quality. Hopefully home will stay strong all season. Surely Salford away is winnable and not winning there will be a real disappointment.
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| Did anyone wonder why the blatant spear tackle by one of your guys was waved away by the ref after the touch judge had put his flag up, Thaler certainly helped you there although I think disciplinary panel might not be so forgiving.
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| Our inbility to defend is my greastest gripe. It was something I hoped Potter would fix first but it is still as weak as it has been these last three years.
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| Good game to watch last night IMO, however both sides look mid-table at best and a better side would have run riot with the amount of errors/wrong options both sides took.
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| I didn't expect us to win and we didn't so I guess I shouldn't be disappointed.
12 -0 isn't a big lead to drop these days in Super League as many games will show you, the amount of "come backs" that seem to occur now is amazing.
We played a Hull side full of great players, who had their backs to the wall and were desperate to win to save their coach.
The results this weekend and previous weeks just show that perceived quality and top-team status mean nothing if the other side come out all guns blazing, determined to get the result. Warrington lost to Catalans, Wigan got trounced by Catalans, Leeds lost to Hull KR and it wouldn't surprise me if Quins lose to Wakey today.
The league is unpredictable and we're sitting right in the middle of it, still in touch with the teams above us with the hope of half a team returning from injury to look forward to.
Lets hope we can get a win at Salford to help get everyone up for the Leeds game.
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| Quote ="psychostring"12-0 isn't a big lead to drop these days in Super League as many games will show you, the amount of "come backs" that seem to occur now is amazing.'"
After watching Bradford lose 30-6 and 26-0 leads in recent seasons I can assure you that 12-0 isn't even a ripple on the lake.
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| While I didn't really expect us to win before the game after going 12-0 up I'd have hoped we'd have the mental toughness to go on and win it. It seems that we revert to "dumb football" whenever we're put under pressure. Why do we suffer from this mental weakness? Is it due to bad habits being allowed to take hold under the old regime? Or are some players simply not good enough?
I can't work out what's happening with Ian Sibbit this season, he's seems unable to stop giving away penalties and is something of a liability at the moment. Similarly Elliott Whitehead is already halfway to making the same number of missed tackles as he made in the whole of 2010 and he's already made the same number of errors as he made in the whole season. There's something amiss in his performances there.
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| Quote ="psychostring" and it wouldn't surprise me if Quins lose to Wakey today.
The league is unpredictable and we're sitting right in the middle of it, still in touch with the teams above us with the hope of half a team returning from injury to look forward to.
Lets hope we can get a win at Salford to help get everyone up for the Leeds game.'"
Ok so i said it wouldn't suprise me if Quins lose to Wakey.......I didn't expect 52-32 to Wakey!
We finish the weekend in 8th, very much a mid table side.
Now comes the task of facing a Salford side who will be smarting from a 52-20 battering at the hands of Cas and desperate to put in a performance in front of their home fans.
There are no easy fixtures in Super League!
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| Indeed there are not.
As the current league leaders found when they came to our place recently. Still the only team to beat them after nine rounds...
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| The stupid penalties and lack of respect for the ball really hacked me off on Friday! Chev Walkers second effort on the last tackle was criminal! Anyway this isn't my moan about the game my moan about the game comes from the toilet that was sat behind me, every time Herbert touched the ball the guy was on his back saying how $h*te he was and that he creates nothing, his kicking is poor, we would be a much better team without him etc etc why would you bother going to the game if your going to be like that? Especially considering he had a hand in 3 of the tries friday (I think) I hope he wasn't from this board as the guy knows jack about Rugby League and I was embarrassed for him!
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| Quote ="redeverready"Our inbility to defend is my greastest gripe. It was something I hoped Potter would fix first but it is still as weak as it has been these last three years.'"
At times we defend better than we have in recent years. But it seems to me there's two things we are completely unable to stop doing, allowing the opposition players to offload and giving penalties away. It seems like we're not really learning at all when it comes to those two things. Our scrambling and general defence is much better than last year I feel, but there are still certain parts of it that need sorting if we want to start winning more games.
There's definite improvement there from the previous years, but we're not quite there yet.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"At times we defend better than we have in recent years. But it seems to me there's two things we are completely unable to stop doing, allowing the opposition players to offload and giving penalties away. It seems like we're not really learning at all when it comes to those two things. Our scrambling and general defence is much better than last year I feel, but there are still certain parts of it that need sorting if we want to start winning more games.
There's definite improvement there from the previous years, but we're not quite there yet.'"
My problem with the defence is the edge defending. We look fairly strong up the middle, damn strong in fact I'd say. There's just that bit of brittleness on the edges where teams seem to enjoy exploiting us.
Of course, you have new partnerships and understandings, which I fully accept, and I have total faith it will improve, but that's the area I think we look abit short at the minute.
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| Quote ="AaronBull"My problem with the defence is the edge defending. We look fairly strong up the middle, damn strong in fact I'd say. There's just that bit of brittleness on the edges where teams seem to enjoy exploiting us.
Of course, you have new partnerships and understandings, which I fully accept, and I have total faith it will improve, but that's the area I think we look abit short at the minute.'"
Deffo agree with you there pal
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