We're used to people kicking us when we're down now PopTart.

T'other way about, mate. We owe them. Or at least the old legal entity did. Fees for loans for the SL clubs and ticket money for the Championship clubs, generally speaking.

Errrr... unless. I am having a senior moment, the creditors were actually owed money by the Bulls?

Were they? Is that why they're called "creditors" then?

You know, that makes sense now. I wonder if the administrators knew that...

Ah, I did think that but I linked the two sentences together and assumed they used the wrong word

"The report also details that [uBradford were ow[/ued £100,000 in sponsorship money. Creditors of the Bulls include the RFL and a whole stack of other clubs - Workington, Whitehaven, Sheffield, London, Leeds, Salford, Huddersfield, Dewsbury, Batley, Featherstone and St Helens."

I was thinking the 'owed' bit related to the list that followed.

Ok I apologise to the list of clubs I mentally disrespected and I am back just mildly supporting the Bulls rather than fighting your corner.

It's the willingness to think positively of us that gives us all heart.

Where will the Administrators get their fee from though. Presumable only pennies in the pound from any liquidated assets.

It would stick in the clack of the creditors if the administrators receive the full total of their outrageous bill.

Not sure about being a nomadic club they have played at Old Deer Park since 1957

All administrators etc work until the cash runs out. They get first dibs.

London Welsh are small and insignificant.

It'd be like losing Halifax, not important Bradford.

Good team name that.

Chip....Shoulder?

Whoosh!

Fish........Elbow?

I scan the forums as a RL fan to see what's going on in our world, and this keeps on cropping up. Through the last few weeks, I've only ever given you my best wishes that things work out for you, but time and again I see messages like this. Is it any wonder that fans of other local teams have it in for you? Stop the vitriol and maybe, just maybe, we can get on a little better here?

I really hope you can get past the 12 points deduction and make a real stab at it this year, but naturally I want Fax to take the 4 points on offer in our games.

All the best.

When you, as fans, are constantly on the receiving end of these diatribes over and over from certain sections of fans from local rivals there are two ways of taking it, turning it round into a running joke or getting wound up.

The divs spouting this garbage have sod all understanding of the gambles, fibs to HMRC and other shenanigans all clubs get into just to ensure survival.

You're clearly not one of 'em.

When it hits the fan most of us want RL to prosper but there are those who masturbate, vigorously, over the thought of the death of their most bitter rival who just happens, despite all evidence to the contrary, to be teachers pet.

In dark times it's fun to point and laugh at them to keep the spirits up



Hope 'Fax have a good season, but let us have the 4 points eh? Always better a Lancashire club goes down...

It's nothing personal. But when a lot of most other Fax fans come on here slagging us off you are unfortunately caught up in the backlash if like yourself you are caught swimming against the tide. Generalisation is the way of the world these days.

No idea which thread to put this in now that the huge admin threads aren't on the front page, so,

Our good friend Nigel wood has been answering questions on Twitter this aft, unsurprisingly we came up. One interesting question amd answer was if it was considered unfair on Whitehaven to be asked to put together a championship squad at short notice why is it OK for the Bulls? The answer was that when the decision had to be made the Bulls still had the bulk of last seasons championship squad.

I find this odd, the players were made redundant before we were in any league. When they made and published the decision that a new club had to be in the championship we had precisely zero players. That doesn't add up. So they must have also applied the minus 12 points with the same assumption of our previous championship squad being able to handle the minus 12, not our current squad.

It also implies to me that if they had to make the decision last week they'd have put us in league 1 like we wanted....but I don't think that was ever the plan. It just proves the whole thing was a farce and the rfl handled it badly/making it up as they go along, Cheers for the help nige.

So it's minus 12 points, and minus 12 players, the rfl need throwing out, we need a new committee, how can we progress as a sport with these clowns in charge

Same with the production team at SKY. Clear out the dinosaurs and let new blood have a go.

Most of the game changes come from australia so the rfl are not changing the sport there, they are simply playing follow the leader, I'm not been bias towards the bulls, but they have certainly done more for British rugby league than the rfl have done

God that made me laugh