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| Quote ="mat"Given the players available our only other options,without using platt, are cook/langley at Centre neither of whom have ever impressed me there or move semi to Centre, halley to wing and hyde to FB which strikes me as too much disruption on a short turnaround.'"
Cook was originally a centre wasn't he?
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| Quote ="mat"surely he wont get a starting spot this week based on monday, clearly not match fit. Bench spot at best and bring him on in late stages when he might be able to take advantage of a tiring opposition.'"
Think he has to be in in order to get some match fitness, but from the bench as an impact player agreed.
He has the ability to turn the game. If he doesn't drop the ball that is...
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| Quote ="debaser"Cook was originally a centre wasn't he?'"
yep but bulked up a bit since then. always looked more at home in 2nd row imo. has covered in past for us during games so is an option.
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| Why on earth do people have this obsession of wanting to see Michael Platt play centre? I just can't see the benefit. Same with Tame when he was here as well. Hasn't that Hyde lad played a bit of halfback? Didn't he get selected for England as a 6? Personally for this weeks game I would go with this line up.
Halley. Sheriffe. Sykes. Menzies. Tadulala. Solomona. Jeffries. Kopczak. Newton. Lynch. Cook. Burgess. Langley. Subs. Worrincy. Scruton. Whitehead. Platt.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Why on earth do people have this obsession of wanting to see Michael Platt play centre? I just can't see the benefit. Same with Tame when he was here as well. Hasn't that Hyde lad played a bit of halfback? Didn't he get selected for England as a 6? Personally for this weeks game I would go with this line up.
Halley. Sheriffe. Sykes. Menzies. Tadulala. Solomona. Jeffries. Kopczak. Newton. Lynch. Cook. Burgess. Langley. Subs. Worrincy. Scruton. Whitehead. Platt.'"
at standoff, surely you jest
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Why on earth do people have this obsession of wanting to see Michael Platt play centre? I just can't see the benefit. Same with Tame when he was here as well. Hasn't that Hyde lad played a bit of halfback? Didn't he get selected for England as a 6? Personally for this weeks game I would go with this line up.
Halley. Sheriffe. Sykes. Menzies. Tadulala. Solomona. Jeffries. Kopczak. Newton. Lynch. Cook. Burgess. Langley. Subs. Worrincy. Scruton. Whitehead. Platt.'" He's played a bit of 7 but not for over 18 months. He was the fullback for the England Academy.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"OK - stopped being lazy and had a look
Hyde FB
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Think it maybe Whitehead or Olbison the gets the nod'" Tom Olbison arrived at the club as a .
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| Solomona definitely shouldn't play Stand Off, he makes enough errors in the second row.
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| Quote ="mat"icon_eek.gif at standoff, surely you jest
'" Why would I be? he's played there quite a few times for us. Also we could play Langley at centre who has also played there numerous times for us.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"Why would I be? he's played there quite a few times for us. Also we could play Langley at centre who has also played there numerous times for us.'"
Solomona doesn't deserve a starting spot after last week's "performance".
He needs to earn his place.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Solomona doesn't deserve a starting spot after last week's "performance".
He needs to earn his place.'"
Spot on
He was off the pace, clumsy and mediocre. The guy's been nothing more than that over his whole time at the club
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Solomona doesn't deserve a starting spot after last week's "performance".
He needs to earn his place.'"
Strictly, he doesnt deserve a spot in the 17 after last week's performance. He had an 80% error rate.
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| I'm sure his awful error rate had a lot to do with him being brought back from shoulder injury too early?
At least I hope that was the main reason.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"I'm sure his awful error rate had a lot to do with him being brought back from shoulder injury too early?
At least I hope that was the main reason.'"
I thought his error rate was due to the poor choices he made. I cant believe that any other player coming back from injury would decide to attempt killer offloads on their first four carries.
As for being brought back from injury too early, he was certainly brought back before shedding the excess 2 stone that he is carrying. I'd be inclined to send him off to fat farm and terminate his contract unless he gets himself fit.
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| Frank Endacott's biography is pretty scathing about Solomona. He says that commentators and fans often go overboard about his amazing offloads. So much so that they can be going on about one piece of skill and fail to notice he's made several mistakes while they've been raving on about him. Endacott reckoned that the errors could often outweigh the skills. He also said that as a youngster doing sprints that Solomona would consistently pull up short to try and cut corners in training.
Now we don't have Solo's side of the story on any of this but it remains food for thought.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"
Now we don't have [size=150Solo[/size's side of the story on any of this but it remains [size=150food[/size for thought.'"
You've hit the nail on the head.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Tom Olbison arrived at the club as a Centre.'"
I was just going from the Bulls site squad list.
Is he playing any centre in the academy now?
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| Quote ="Cibaman"I thought his error rate was due to the poor choices he made. I cant believe that any other player coming back from injury would decide to attempt killer offloads on their first four carries.
As for being brought back from injury too early, he was certainly brought back before shedding the excess 2 stone that he is carrying. I'd be inclined to send him off to fat farm and terminate his contract unless he gets himself fit.'"
I fear the intended irony in my post did not come across. And yes, I agree with all of that.
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| the guys a pudding,let the youngsters have a go, can't be any worst, at least they 're match fit.!
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| Solomona's deal is up at the end of the season, whilst he's been unlucky to get injured this year it's really down to him to get fit and find some form or he'll not get another anywhere let alone with us.
As a result I'd expect him to be trying his best. Maybe that's why he was trying the miracle balls versus Wakey?
I reckon it's probably going to be his last year with us so I'd like to see us give the likes of Whitehead, Olbison and Donaldson a few runs this year to prepare them for more in the future.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Solomona doesn't deserve a starting spot after last week's "performance".
He needs to earn his place.'"
A lot of our players dont deserve a spot week after week yet they still get them. When youre down on numbers you have to make do with what we have, we can't afford to be picking and choosing and we need some creativity in the middle and some strength of the flanks, for the balance of the team, Solomona at 6 and Menzies and Sykes at centre is clearly a far better option than any other.
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| Quote ="Terry Monster"A lot of our players dont deserve a spot week after week yet they still get them. When youre down on numbers you have to make do with what we have, we can't afford to be picking and choosing and we need some creativity in the middle and some strength of the flanks, for the balance of the team, Solomona at 6 and Menzies and Sykes at centre is clearly a far better option than any other.'"
Solomona's error count last week makes me a better option than him!
I am available!
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| Solomona at 6 would be a liability. He neither has match fitness nor a decent enough pair of hands.
I personally think that Langley's position is in the second row, he's a grafter but will never be a loose forward as long as he's got a hole in his backside.
Burgess should be playing at loose as he's shown that he has the skill (when he can be bothered and isn't believing his own hype). He doesn't operate well at prop, I don't think he's matured enough to mix it.
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| Quote ="yougengis"Burgess should be playing at loose as he's shown that he has the skill (when he can be bothered and isn't believing his own hype). He doesn't operate well at prop, I don't think he's matured enough to mix it.'"
I reckon Burgess is better suited to the backrow where he can use his skills out wide. Trouble is we're a bit lacking in the prop department, Lynch is fantastic but Scruton is a bit out of form and Kopczak is still finding his feet. We lack a bit of grunt and so Burgess is being used to get us rolling forward. It's a bit like using a Ferrari to plough a field.
On Langley I agree he's mainly a workhorse, he lacks any creativity and rarely breaks the line.
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| Agree on Scruton, he's not done much to impress since arriving. Although at least he looked eager against Leeds. Kopczak needs more game time, I say keep him in there.
Why not recall Matt James? From what I hear he's impressed on his stint there, he was showing good signs before that too.
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