Hall does nothing Crossley and probably G Burgess couldn't provide.

He's in his first season in a different country, he's being played out of position and he's had alot to deal with off the pitch.

Give him a break, I can only assume that most of you do not watch any NRL as you do not know what Hall is capable of. I am disappointed he hasn't reached his potential yet, but give hima full season in his favoured position and he will.

I've seen him in Nrl.. Nothing special in what was a good team... End of.

I just remember hearing MAnly 2nd rower and thinking WATMOUGH!

Obviously if oyu have the likes of Watmough and Stewart in the back row you won't be the best one



However he was consistent and was getting picked regularly in a GF winning team. If you had watched enough of him, you would know he is capable of being a very good player.

Think of some recent imports who didnt have the best of first seasons

Riddell, Richards, King, Monaghan. It must take time to settle in

Glenn Hall is rubbish, thats all.

Matt King wasnt too popular with the wire fans in his first year. Not sure many would swap him now.

Riddell, ditto and bet pie eaters are disappointed he is going home

Matt King is a world class player.

Didnt they offer to pay his airfare home in his first year?

Unfortunately with the tightening overseas player restrictions we cannot afford to have such an average player taking up a quota spot when we have players who can do just as good a job from our reserves. Whilst I am sympathetic about his family problems he is not justifying his spot IMO. Hopefully it is a case of taking a while to settle in and he will come good next year. If not he has been a disappointing accquisiton.

You didn't watch any of Manly's GF wnining season then?

Yep I watched, and I thought he was average then as he always has been. He's crap Ewwen.

Orford & Kearney are good enough for any team in SL (not saying they would displace present incumbents), Hall would be lucky to make any team on current form. The loss of Orford has been disastrous but you still have a good enough team to be mid-table.

Maybe we should see if Wakey want to swap him with Millard

To be honest, I couldn't give a flying f*** how he played for Manly. This year, Hall has been a waste of a quota spot and a waste of salary.

I'd love him to improve and become a good player for us. Right now, he's not. He's been a huge disappointment.

Kearney yes.

I wouldn't take Orford over McGuire, Burrow, Myler, Briers, Tommy Leu, Sean Long, Rangi Chase or Kyle Eastmond.

So no, no he wouldn't.

Hall wouldn't make any other SL side, including Crusaders, Quins or Salford.

Average or crap? Make your mind up?

So you haven't been watching RL long then? Orford has more to his game than Long, Briers, Tommy, McGuire, Burrow & Chase. He has more to his game than Myler ever will.

Eastmond is the only player who I would take out of that list over a fully fit Orford.


He may have had a poor season, but if Hall can hold down a place in a NRL champion side, he can get in most in SL. He would easily get in the 3 you've mentioned, plus Cas, Wakey & Catalans.

If you're no good then you are average, if you're no good then you are crap, same thing.

Past performances are completely irrelevant. He may have been able to hold down a place in the Manly side before, but if he'd played for Manly like he has for us, there's no way he would have been a regular.

How he played for Manly DOES NOT MATTER. How he has played (or not played) for us, is what does matter. And he's been poor.

I seem to recall the our most disastrous signing of the SL era came with an outstanding previous (in RL) track record. I'd rather not be reminded again how that turned out...

And we signed Shaun Edwards years ago, he of fantastic pedigree, and look how THAT turned out?

As the financial ads say, the past is no guide to the future, sadly. Hall for me has been a big disappointment so far - for whatever reason - as I was expecting a Brad Meyers with attitude.

Kearney and L'estrange have exceeded my expectations. Orford, after allowing for his late arrival, was outstanding till the wheels came off.

Just the 25 years.

Orford is and always has been hugely overated on both sides of the pond. By fans, teamates and respected pundits alike. I don't go with the Aussie flag waving masses who would cheer on a steaming turd if it could sing 3 choruses of Waltzing Matilda.

Orford better than any of the above? No.That he can't even stay fit or get on the paddock to prove otherwise partially illustrates what a poor investment he was in the first instance.

Aye I'd agree with that. Kearney & L'Estrange certainly been good signings. Orford I suspect would be if we could keep him fit. Hall has been a massive disappointment.

That of course does not mean though that he won't get better. I thought Andy Lynch was poor in his first season after signing from Cas and I was one of the people that kind of agreed with him not playing in the Grand Final that year, as I didn't think his form deserved it. Now look at him. Can only think of 1 prop in the league I'd swap him for and that's James Graham.

I maintain, I can't think of any side Hall would get in, bar the Bulls by obligation. Whatever his apparent lack of fitness issue is, 5 months into the season, it needs addressing. Quickly.

The thoughts of his teamates would be interesting given Scruton shouting at him (post double substitution) to "f'kin get up" when Hall resumed his crouching tiger, hidden player pose, in the Giants game.

I'm not sure what his record was like before he came to Odsal. Did he have a history of injury?

As for Hall he is underperforming and for a quota player that's all the more disappointing. Nevertheless he's not the only underperforming player in the side this year. I hope the new coach gets more out of him.