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| The rumours were already gathering pace at the weekend that Batemans agent had said that a deal had been agreed with Warrington. With needless statements like that it could be that he is preparing the fans for the news. Mind you that isn't the only rumour going round to be fair and most of them will probably be a load of rubbish. They certainly don't help though.
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| It not rumour that wire want Bateman, they do. But why we should even entertain it and encourage the talk in public is beyond me.
The club may well have to deal with the prospect of selling assets privately I'm sure, but no preparing of the ground will help the fans reaction, so if I was a chairman on his way out wthin days/weeks if I couldn't give out only constructive vibes I'd keep my bloody mouth shut when a sun journo rings up.
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| It dosn't say when Hood made these comments
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| Quote ="Cibaman"It dosn't say when Hood made these comments'"
No it doesn't, and to be fair the headline is quite a spin for the angle they want from the probably honest quote which does say we are resisting offers.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"It dosn't say when Hood made these comments'"
Exactly. Didn't he make a similar (or even identical) statement to this effect several weeks ago? The only 'news' here appears to be the rumour of Huddersfield showing an interest. Looks like a non-story to me.
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| That's what I mean. Just as it is still a rumour. The line of 'considerable interest' has been around for months
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| From his twitter account just now -
"Paper talk nowa days, lol love to no who's writes these things"
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| Yes it's no secret that Warrington want John Bateman and it's also no secret that Bateman's agents are the Clarke brothers.
Hence Phil using Sky Sports to inflate the contract value - although John's performances have seemingly done that without the need for Phil to compare John to a young Andy Farrell.
The problem with selling yet another crown in our jewels is obvious - it disengages the clubs core support.
Although I'd ask everyone to think about this:
"If selling John Bateman to Warrington for the rumoured £250,000+ secured the long term future of the club while categorically meaning the club also avoided administration, could you live with such a decision to sell John Bateman?"
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| Heartbreakingly I could live with such a decision.
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| I will be gutted if we let this guy go its mad we should be making room for our young guns these are the future of the club and the ones that will take us back to our glory days. This lad could easily be the next Andy farrell if we give him time and dont rush him. The bradford board want if they let him go to another club. the last thing we want to be is second fiddle or a feeder club to the money clubs. If we turn into that we will never rise to the top again. Wigan are a club who were at the bottom when Noble joined but with the increase in home grown talent and keeping there young talent they rose to the top again, Bradford need to do the same.
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| Bateman's Twitter puts it all to rest.
The only 'vultures' that are circling are the press. But, like Bullseye mentions, Hood's communication skills are appalling, if indeed the comments have been made recently.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled""If selling John Bateman to Warrington for the rumoured £250,000+ secured the long term future of the club while categorically meaning the club also avoided administration, could you live with such a decision to sell John Bateman?"'"
It would have to be explained in those terms, which unfortunately would lead to a situation where the club have something to say and we'd have something new from those shysters to not believe.
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| Sounds quite simple to me? Hood is telegraphing that for the club to survive without the required level of outside investment, Bateman will have to be sold. He's basically challenging Caisley to come up with the necessary investment so that sale can be avoided?
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| Incidentally, if you were Bateman's agent (Phil Clarke's brother), you would be grossly negligent IMO if you did not advise your client to hold off signing any contract with ANYBODY right now. His value - for an extended Bulls contract or to Davy or Moran and their bottomless pockets and boundless munificence, will likely only keep on increasing. The longer you leave it, the more he is likely to be able to command, whoever he plays for. And you would DEFINITELY not want him to be coerced into being part of a forced sale?
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| Any bid from Warrington I would imagine is for next year onwards or at least a loan back agreement. This year, I believe we are at full cap already but could be wrong. Huddersfield too if you believe the Lunt scenario was to make cap space available.
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| Quote ="vbfg"It would have to be explained in those terms, which unfortunately would lead to a situation where the club have something to say and we'd have something new from those shysters to not believe.'"
See Adeybulls post above for the reason Peter Hood is making all this enter the public domain.
Although the club have stated that £1,000,000 needs to be found by the end of May in order for Bradford Bulls to continue as a entity, in Peter Hoods first interview on the financial plight - he did state that £800,000 would be enough to see the club steady the ship through the rough waters.
Now you do the maths:
£520,000 raised via pledges and fundraising leaving £280,000 to find should no investment be forthcoming.
Administration or sell John Bateman is what Peter Hood is basically telling us.
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| Quote ="Rickflynn"From his twitter account just now -
"Paper talk nowa days, lol love to no who's writes these things"'"
Er, the last person who speaks to Peter Hood writes these things John. First Wilson in The Guardian and now The Sun.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Any bid from Warrington I would imagine is for next year onwards or at least a loan back agreement. This year, I believe we are at full cap already but could be wrong. Huddersfield too if you believe the Lunt scenario was to make cap space available.'"
I have to agree regarding the lunt scenario. the reason for the Moore purchase must of been to make space on the cap system. I could not imagine Hudds would have the space available for bateman unless the throw in a house and car
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| Quote ="Joseph241211"I have to agree regarding the lunt scenario. the reason for the Moore purchase must of been to make space on the cap system. I could not imagine Hudds would have the space available for bateman unless the throw in a house and car
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Irrelevant. House, car, cat, dog, whatever - all counts under the cap.
And you do a sale and loanback if the buyer can't fit someone under the cap immediately.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"See Adeybulls post above for the reason Peter Hood is making all this enter the public domain.
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I've seen it. The simple fact is that if Peter Hood said "Hello, I'm Peter Hood" I'd call him a fscking liar. I'm not making a comment on the Bateman situation, here or in my previous post. I'm just saying that no matter what they say now, nor how many people with an inside track help in the explaining, literally nobody will believe them.
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| A lot of predators circulating for Kopczak also! Big interest from the rumours going round
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| Quote ="Bullsfab!"A lot of predators circulating for Kopczak also! Big interest from the rumours going round'"
To be honest all our players are going to be subjected to moves away from Bradford because we are club on the brink. But on the brink does not mean at the bottom yet just lets hope for postive news in the coming weeks. We all know selling players is the last and only resort
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| this could be a bit of digging by Hood to see who is is willing to pay and how much and to get a responce from CC
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| At the moment we are a mid table club performing quite well in the face of adversity on several fronts. Start selling our best players and where will we be, scrapping for bottom place or worse? Who will want to invest in a Team without potential?
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| Out of interest - can Hood sell Bateman given that the EGM is official? Would he not need to get approval for the sale form the other shareholders in the short term - or would Caisley be "happy" with the sale so everything lays at Hoods door and Caisley's first act is to state nobody else is for sale and previous sales were done by the old chair, where he had no control, stating if he had control, he would not of allowed this to happen....etc, blah, etc, blah
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