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| Anyone any good at translating? If so, [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=27&t=456857=#800000this[/url may or may not be a contribution to the debate?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Jason Taylor.'"
Guess? Opinion? Or have you heard something down there?
Would be a pretty powerful appointment. Is he working since his little local difficulty (or stitch-up?) with Souths?
Edit: see he has a role with the Roosters at present, but not at top level.
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| Quote ="dixie"I can't believe there's an ad in League express to apply for head coach at Bulls.
I took it as a joke at first but it is obviously serious. Is anyone who reads LE up for a job in super league!
I'm pretty good on Football Manager
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Funnily enough, there is an almost identical ad in THIS week for Brown's job.
So believe...!
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Funnily enough, there is an almost identical ad in THIS week for Brown's job.
So believe...!'"
Must be the only place there are job adverts ATM. I've just been on the bog with this week's Property Week & could normally kill a good 5 minutes looking at the vacancies, now it would be lucky to last a trump.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Must be the only place there are job adverts ATM. I've just been on the bog with this week's Property Week & could normally kill a good 5 minutes looking at the vacancies, now it would be lucky to last a trump.'"
One takes it that your boss does not read this forum...?
As for job ads for what I do...I'd have to to sit there browsing the web on my Blackberry,and hope it did not slip out of my fingers and drop down somewhere fatal...
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| Quote ="Adeybull"As for job ads for what I do...I'd have to to sit there browsing the web on my Blackberry,and hope it did not slip out of my fingers and drop down somewhere fatal...'"
I take it a blackberry is a mobile email & smart phone device, not something else...?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Indeed.
Now here is some food for thought for those who are indeed shocked at the advert being placed:
Let us imagine the not-uncommon scenario where your target or targets is or are already gainfully employed by another club or clubs? What are you going to do - approach them and try and poach them? Induce them to breach their contract, even? Bulls, of all clubs should know where that can get you.
Now if, however, you placed a nice bland ad in the trade press, and your target just happened to read it and just happened to approach YOU - and that IS what really happened cos both parties will say it was, and they are all totally honest people so it must be right - then you are in the clear. You'll not have some lost-his-rag chief exec. telling the world you "cohersed" his man away, or anything like that.
Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt saying "we put food in a starving lawyer's babies' mouths" in precisely this scenario.'"
Aren't there also some very basic laws around advertising jobs for the purposes of equality, etc? IIRC something like 95% of all listings advertised on the front page of the Guradian Jobs are reckoned to be already appointed but they have to be seen to be advertised.
Regardless, this does now present an unrivalled opportunity for anyone on here to APPLY! Can I suggest that if anyone on this forum does not go for it themselves then they lose some of their future credibility in criticising Macca's successor?
(I think it's spelt 'coerced' by the way.)
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| Quote ="Block5Bull"Aren't there also some very basic laws around advertising jobs for the purposes of equality, etc? IIRC something like 95% of all listings advertised on the front page of the Guradian Jobs are reckoned to be already appointed but they have to be seen to be advertised.'"
I think that only applies to publicly funded businesses, though many companies will have policies that say they will advertise. All these policies, whether public or private, are circumvented when the need arises. The figure of 95% stated is way over the mark in my experience, maybe 10-20%.
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Thanks for the link, interesting article.
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Thanks for the link, interesting article.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Guess? Opinion? Or have you heard something down there?
Would be a pretty powerful appointment. Is he working since his little local difficulty (or stitch-up?) with Souths?
Edit: see he has a role with the Roosters at present, but not at top level.'"
It's a bizarre one right now, since the roosters have lost out on their first choice assistant Taylor was told he had a chance of the job but as he still hasn't had a offer so he's decided to look overseas, with Bradford or saints been his choice (not Huddersfield for obvious reasons).
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| At last we have had some kind of comment from Odsal. I know these things are never talked about in the public for confidentialty reasons but some sort of low down on number of applicants, time scales, when we may get to 2nd interview stage has been alarmingly quiet for me. Probably a month then to an announcement. Are we betting on o/s coach or from within super league?
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| Quote ="RatedRKO"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12209_6170532,00.html
Looks like if Lowes is offered the job Warrington won't be stopping him. Thoughts?'"
That I wouldn't want him taking over as he's unproven. Not unless we get an older head on board aswell for a couple of years, but we couldn't afford that anyway.
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"That I wouldn't want him taking over as he's unproven. '"
Yes he is. He's proven he hasn't a clue.
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| Hell fire. If it's Lowes we're doomed. Doomed I tell ya.
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| Lowes will no doubt receive the backing of Tony Smith and McNamara and will be one of the favourites to land the job. Lowes probably wasn't quite ready when he took over at Wire but he may well have the qualities to be a good HC. He is probably my all time favourite Bulls player, but I don't know whether I'd want him as Head Coach right now.
It would be interesting to see the short list, I'd like to think we could attract somebody with a proven track record this time around though.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Lowes will no doubt receive the backing of Tony Smith and McNamara and will be one of the favourites to land the job. Lowes probably wasn't quite ready when he took over at Wire but he may well have the qualities to be a good HC. He is probably my all time favourite Bulls player, but I don't know whether I'd want him as Head Coach right now.
It would be interesting to see the short list, I'd like to think we could attract somebody with a proven track record this time around though.'"
Whilst I have my doubts about Lowes as a contender, you have made some valid points regarding the timing of his take over last time and how he might approach it this time
I'd like someone with a proven track record this time round but that might not be possible
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| Quote ="RatedRKO"www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12209_6170532,00.html
Looks like if Lowes is offered the job Warrington won't be stopping him. Thoughts?'"
I couldn't help reading into this that Smith might want rid of a potentially disruptive influence. Then again, if not, that's some praise from one of SL's most successful coaches.
Either way I think if Bradford can afford to they should try and bring in someone from outside the club (with minimal ties to it), preferably an experienced NRL assistant or 1st grade coach. It has been a long time since someone outside the Brian Smith 'school' has been in charge and it probably wouldn't hurt to have a breath of fresh air.
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| The appointment of Lowes (if it happens), really would give a huge indication of how tight the budget really is at Odsal (IMO).
No disrespect to Jimmy, fantastic player, doing a good assistant job, but to give him the reins at the Bulls could be potentially disastrous.
As I've said before, an Aussie would be the way to go for me, bringing some fresh ideas in with him.
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"I couldn't help reading into this that Smith might want rid of a potentially disruptive influence. '"
I read into Lowes retention at Wire that it was all part of the pay-off for losing the HC gig. Even Wayne Bennett needs someone to put out the cones & shout occasionally.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"The appointment of Lowes (if it happens), really would give a huge indication of how tight the budget really is at Odsal (IMO).
No disrespect to Jimmy, fantastic player, doing a good assistant job, but to give him the reins at the Bulls could be potentially disastrous.
As I've said before, an Aussie would be the way to go for me, bringing some fresh ideas in with him.'"
Agreed.
However I have a potential solution.
I was chatting to Ridlerbull at the Leeds game about this and it could be a goer. Why don't WE apply? We all think we know it all. Perhaps we should send in an application? Now there may be a few logistical problems (who goes to the interview?) and if we're successful we'll need a much bigger dugout but these aren't insurmountable. We could have specific posters taking on different elements of the job. Mick G could do the after match interviews and blame it all on the ref. FA could look after the intricacies of explaining the rules. ME could provide the team with a stirring team-talk to get them all positive!
They say 2 heads are better than 1. How about 200 heads?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Agreed.
However I have a potential solution.
I was chatting to Ridlerbull at the Leeds game about this and it could be a goer. Why don't WE apply? We all think we know it all. Perhaps we should send in an application? Now there may be a few logistical problems (who goes to the interview?) and if we're successful we'll need a much bigger dugout but these aren't insurmountable. We could have specific posters taking on different elements of the job. Mick G could do the after match interviews and blame it all on the ref. FA could look after the intricacies of explaining the rules. ME could provide the team with a stirring team-talk to get them all positive!
They say 2 heads are better than 1. How about 200 heads?'"
Jesus can you imagine how long it would take ME and FA to come to an agreement?! They'd be arguing over head or tails for the coin toss...
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| I like to sit on the fence so I could decide the coin toss.
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