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| Loose forward in the same mould as Brendan Tuuta would do just fine.
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| Quote I still think we need a scrum half, but I don't think we'll be recruiting any more halfbacks'"
Why do we need ANOTHER half back. We've already got Sammut, Jefferies, Briggs, Gale and Southernwood for next year.
Urgent priority is a nasty aggressive forward. Our pack is no nice it's alomost pathetic. We were getting pushed by 5ft Mcshane against Leeds, only Elima stood up. Would also like another winger (Elliot Kear preferably )
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Why do we need ANOTHER half back. We've already got Sammut, Jefferies, Briggs, Gale and Southernwood for next year.
Urgent priority is a nasty aggressive forward. Our pack is no nice it's alomost pathetic. We were getting pushed by 5ft Mcshane against Leeds, only Elima stood up. Would also like another winger (Elliot Kear preferably
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because all the halves on the books, with the exception of southernwood who doesnt look close to first team yet, are better suited to the running standoff role. Gale and maybe Briggs have potential to develop into organising halves but they dont fill that role naturally now. Believe Sammut started as a scrum half in NRL but he hasnt been used in that role at crusaders, instead being given free rein to do the off the cuff stuff.I'm guessing potters planning on developing gale into the organising role with jeffries as backup which is fine long term, but bringing in a deacon/orford type of player would have a more immediate effect on team. Can't see us doing it this year but next year sammu,briggs and jeffries are all OOC so we could well see another half recruited for 2013.
For this years recruitment another winger, karl pryce seems likely, and a aggresive forward seem to be biggest areas to concentrate on.
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| Pryce, Purtell, Lulia and Raynor 2 to 5 would be happy with that.
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| Darrell Goulding doesnt seem in favour at Wigan, cant see him getting in the team in a hurry with Josh Charnley in such good form.
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"Pryce, Purtell, Lulia and Raynor 2 to 5 would be happy with that.'"
certainly looks an improvement on this year. been watching Lulia ever since signing was announced and he looks very useful. watched Purtell for full game this morning and was quite impressed. Quite pacy for a big bloke and decent tackler on the whole.
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| Keith Lulia looks like a very good signing, his try last week was quality, he has the running style of Iro/Hape. Just hope we actually use our backs next season.
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"Darrell Goulding doesnt seem in favour at Wigan, cant see him getting in the team in a hurry with Josh Charnley in such good form.'"
not sure he's a massive improvement on Ainscough TBH. has a height advantage which should be an advantage contesting high balls but think Ainscough has more pace which hopefully Lulia/Purtell can use to our advantage. Think we need to be careful not to go overboard with signings. If we bring too many new faces in then it inevitably takes longer for team to settle down. That said do think we need another winger. assuming sykes and platt both and ainscough signs then only backup for wings is either playing purtell/lulia there or crookes. Dont think finnigan is ready/worth retaining from what I've seen of him playing for sheffield this year.
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"Keith Lulia looks like a very good signing, his try last week was quality, he has the running style of Iro/Hape. Just hope we actually use our backs next season.'"
yeah lulia's try last week was a nice piece of work. He seemed to just run straight between 3 defenders and none of them thought to tackle him.
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| Karl Pryce gets a lot of flak for not using his size and his heart in games, which is fair because he could be devastating if he did. Pryce's job though is to score tries, which he has, in a poor team this season 11 in 17 games for the Quins. Overall Pryce has scored 60 tries in 80 games in Super League, put him outside a good centre and he will score for fun. I hope we resign him because we need a natural tryscorer, plus he would be classed as home grown.
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| I'd quite like to see another centre brought in. Reports I have seen suggest that Purtell is stronger on the wing. If that is the case, I hope we intend to play him there. As has been demonstrated this year, playing wingers in the centres doesn't work!! I guess perhaps it will depend on whether the likes of Sykes/Platt remain at the club.
And a tough aggressive forward like others have suggested.
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| Think Karls homegrown status is why he's maybe a more likely signing than goulding
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| Quote ="Diamond Harry"Karl Pryce gets a lot of flak for not using his size and his heart in games, which is fair because he could be devastating if he did. Pryce's job though is to score tries, which he has, in a poor team this season 11 in 17 games for the Quins. Overall Pryce has scored 60 tries in 80 games in Super League, put him outside a good centre and he will score for fun. I hope we resign him because we need a natural tryscorer, plus he would be classed as home grown.'"
Agree, he's also a good centre.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'd quite like to see another centre brought in. Reports I have seen suggest that Purtell is stronger on the wing. If that is the case, I hope we intend to play him there. As has been demonstrated this year, playing wingers in the centres doesn't work!! I guess perhaps it will depend on whether the likes of Sykes/Platt remain at the club.
And a tough aggressive forward like others have suggested.'"
I suggested same re purtell being used on wing when hecwas first rumoured and got shot down in flames. He's been mainly used on wing at Penrith. That said he started out as a centre before he joined Penrith so it's not like he's never played there.
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| i think the ideal would be wing, but centre is a more important position and looks likely to be one of our best 2 centres.
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| We need a prop!! I'd take Ben ross from souths!
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| Quote ="mercerbull"We need a prop!! I'd take Ben ross from souths!'"
Only possible if sammut gets dispensation which I think is unlikely given how long it's dragged on. Think if rfl were going to give it we would have heard by now.
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| Quote ="mat"Only possible if sammut gets dispensation which I think is unlikely given how long it's dragged on. Think if rfl were going to give it we would have heard by now.'"
Unfortunately Lewis hasn't been available this week to sign it off as he's been on a real tennis fact finding mission for his day job.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Why do we need ANOTHER half back. We've already got Sammut, Jefferies, Briggs, Gale and Southernwood for next year.
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Out of the 5 you mention no pairing stands out and I'd be happy with any of the first 4 playing alongside Leon. As that appears out of the question due Leon getting going to Cats for more money I can't help musing that I would swap any 3 of them to have Leon. Lulia looks excellent from what I've seen and Purtell's stats don't match the flak he's got from the Panthers fans so these look 2 good signings in the backs alongside Raynor and AN Other. My fear is Potter will look a hostage to fortune if the ball to this back line is as poor as it has been. The last 2 saints tries yesterday were a joy to see - a fast, accurate back line sweep with outside backs coming from deep. Do we have the players to move and pass like that? Not sure.
A real good quality ruck defender in the mould of Morro, Gartner, Forshaw
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| Tbf, Saints failed to ask the right questions of the Wigan defence till it was too late. In that first half they looked like us.
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"Out of the 5 you mention no pairing stands out and I'd be happy with any of the first 4 playing alongside Leon. As that appears out of the question due Leon getting going to Cats for more money I can't help musing that I would swap any 3 of them to have Leon. Lulia looks excellent from what I've seen and Purtell's stats don't match the flak he's got from the Panthers fans so these look 2 good signings in the backs alongside Raynor and AN Other. My fear is Potter will look a hostage to fortune if the ball to this back line is as poor as it has been. The last 2 saints tries yesterday were a joy to see - a fast, accurate back line sweep with outside backs coming from deep. Do we have the players to move and pass like that? Not sure.
A real good quality ruck defender in the mould of Morro, Gartner, Forshaw'"
This to me tells the story and is a slight worry. the signings dont answer all the questions and leon would be an outstinding addition at the moment
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| Quote ="M@islebugs"A real good quality ruck defender in the mould of Morro, Gartner, Forshaw'"
How we miss the likes of them!
What would we give for another Danny Gartner right now?
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| agree Adey. People laughed about him being trumpeted as an Aussie international when he had only played once, but he certainly did it for us.
Looking at the way the squad is shaping up and performances this season, the biggest drop off against previous performance is Langley, where the intermittent injuries have not helped him when he has got on the pitch this year, hes just not had a long enough run at full fitness and his stats are not anywhere nearwhat he himself would want. So I would see a defensive LF as cover as a necessity, whether from outside,or a current squad player and a replacement for them, for example Koppy with Bailey to replace him as a prop or Elima and Morrison to replace him at 2nd row. something like that. if his injuries continue thats how its going to have to be
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| TBH, as good as Langley is for us, Im beggining to think we should cut our losses with him if we cant keep him fit.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"How we miss the likes of them!
What would we give for another Danny Gartner right now?'"
Langley, Scruton, Sibbitt and Hargreaves, in any combination.
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