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| Sky Sports News‏@SkySportsNews
Are the Bradford Bulls about to be saved from administration? We'll bring you some BIG news from Super League after 12.00 #SSN
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| A little pointer for everyone. BCFC are holding a fans forum tonight at Valley Parade which will include joint-chairman Mark Lawn (be warned, hes a bit gobby). There will be a fair bit of City related stuff with the manager Phil Parkinson also attending and the season starting on Saturday, but might be worth a listen given this has come out today.
I believe its on BBC Radio Leeds from 6pm. Questions can be tweeted to Radio Leeds presenter Gareth Jones @garethjones25
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| So how many extra bids are they expecting ? or are they just suggesting that they dont really want to accept this one?
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| Micky G tweeted this
It would appear that there is considerable interest in the #BradfordBulls with up to 5 interested parties. Deadline is 12noon tomorrow.
That last tweet should of ended with "deadline 12 noon tomorrow, to submit unconditional bids only"
Could be a fun weekend or not!
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| Yet on the link for the rfl the deadline suggests 5pm.
5 bidders one would presume the SLE is still on table along with a bradford city bid, maybe abc will return with super league status been possible if they pay off debts.
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| Hope this one works out for you!
Speaking as an away fan, I'd much prefer to visit VP!
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| Quote ="pie.warrior"probably because the RFL don't want to set a precident of clubs spending beyond their means, failing to pay HMRC and then starting again with a clean slate as though nothing has happened. Afterall the HMRC is a government department just like the the Dept for Culture ,Media & Sport who oversee Sport England who gave the RFL ÂŁ27.5m for 2009-2013.....'"
Fully agree that it's not right that that these things happen, but (to use the famous quote) [i"you cannot be serious[/i" in believing Bradford are in any way setting a [iprecedent[/i, either for RL or for sport in general, as this was done years ago. You could have us for using a cliché, perhaps?
Incidentally, if, as has been suggested, this latest bid pays off the debts, aren't we due a rebate from the six points deducted? Down to the Wakey level at least, I would have thought.
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| Quote ="domthebull"Yet on the link for the rfl the deadline suggests 5pm.
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Not really, it just says that " the Board has asked that all interested parties submit their expressions of interest by 5.00pm on Friday August 10"
An "expression of interest" is worth less than even a conditional offer, and is a seven day camel ride short of an actual concrete and unconditional offer, accompanied by the list of bumf of participants, directors, funding detailsetc which the RFL have made clear they must have to consider any bid.
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| Translating into plain english the marketing double-speak expression "up to 5" means 2 - so not quite a bid frenzy yet, and the use of the word "deadline" in this context also has a rather more flexible meaning than in general usage.
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| If BCFC or anyone else for that matter submit suitable bids and have the business plan to back up their proposal then Bulls could theoretically stay in SL if they are able to meet the criteria.
Whereas the SLE bid seems to suggest that at the end of the season we will be in CH and possibly the RFL can save face by saying this was the plan all along, but if someone else buys us then the RFL will get slagged off by everyone instead as they have gone above and beyond for us compared to pther clubs
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| Said on Sky that the two companies would remain separate and that the Bulls would continue to play at Odsal. What's in it for BCFC?
Seems odd.
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| If the deadline for bids/expression of interest is tomorrow, then the bids have to be assessed. Judging on recent history and Mr Wood being in Australia it is hard to say how long this could take.
My concern for you is that I thought I heard Mick Potter say that without a buyer in place (or to the effect of someone to pay his salary) then KR is his last match. He only has finite money for him and his family and he is to head back home.
As an aside, with these bids to be assessed it may mean a further RFL advance of funds (Sky money?) to pay the salaries of the players which I thought were due next week?
Either way, belatedly and painfully as it has been, it is good to see some interest and RFL deemed credible bids for the Bradford club. Hope the waiting is over soon enough. We had about a week and a half of this uncertainty and can sympathise directly with your pain.
Good luck.
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| Quote ="wildshot"If the deadline for bids/expression of interest is tomorrow, then the bids have to be assessed. Judging on recent history and Mr Wood being in Australia it is hard to say how long this could take.
My concern for you is that I thought I heard Mick Potter say that without a buyer in place (or to the effect of someone to pay his salary) then KR is his last match. He only has finite money for him and his family and he is to head back home.
As an aside, with these bids to be assessed it may mean a further RFL advance of funds (Sky money?) to pay the salaries of the players which I thought were due next week?
Either way, belatedly and painfully as it has been, it is good to see some interest and RFL deemed credible bids for the Bradford club. Hope the waiting is over soon enough. We had about a week and a half of this uncertainty and can sympathise directly with your pain.
Good luck.'"
guilfoyle asked for that advance to cover august wages when last deadline came up (july 27th I think). RFL were considering it over weekend then it sort of got lost in hoohaa about the SLE bid. It was never explicitly stated that they had granted it, but given guilfoyle was only going to extend deadline on receipt of said money and he hasnt liquidated us yet, we must assume August wages have been covered.
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| Apologies if this has been said before (as its hard to follow every thread all day)
There was never any chance of BG making any announcement about bids that were in from whatever source until the Widnes and HKR games had been played and he got whatever gate revenues he could to go towards his fees
This required stringing the people doing it for nothing along until then as much as he could/has
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| Gareth Jones ‏@garethjones25
Bradford City Rhodes says they've discussed terms with RFL about Bradford Bulls but NO formal written bid has been put in #bcafc @BBCLeeds
Certainly looks like it isn't going to be sorted imminently if the formal bid has yet to go in.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Gareth Jones ‏@garethjones25
Bradford City Rhodes says they've discussed terms with RFL about Bradford Bulls but NO formal written bid has been put in #bcafc @BBCLeeds
Certainly looks like it isn't going to be sorted imminently if the formal bid has yet to go in.'"
So does that mean they have not made an actual offer that supposedly was better than the Super League Europe or not.Or have they just said verbally we are willing to pay so many ÂŁ's.
This justs gets more confusing if that is possible.
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| All City are bothered about is some way of getting back the lease for ODSAL to fund buying back VP from Flamingo land. Then we will be hung out to dry.
I don't see how getting in to bed with a fourth division football team is going to save us.
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Gareth Jones ‏@garethjones25
Bradford City Rhodes says they've discussed terms with RFL about Bradford Bulls but NO formal written bid has been put in #bcafc @BBCLeeds
Certainly looks like it isn't going to be sorted imminently if the formal bid has yet to go in.'"
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/article/25871/new-buyer-found-for-bulls[/url
Yet in this the RFL are reported to have received an offer and carried out due diligence.
"A spokesman for the RFL confirmed they have received the offer and executive officers carried out 'due diligence' before making a recommendation to the board of directors."
Does this mean there are 2 offers if BCFC haven't put in a formal offer, which couldn't have undergone and scrutiny, or are the various reporters confused?
I'd assume anything on the super league site would have at least a passing connection with red hall so are they misunderstanding the offer?
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| Quote ="hi de hi"All City are bothered about is some way of getting back the lease for ODSAL to fund buying back VP from Flamingo land. Then we will be hung out to dry.
I don't see how getting in to bed with a fourth division football team is going to save us.'"
You really don't like Bradford City Football Club do you?
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| Quote ="RhinoLaney"icon_lol.gif
You really don't like Bradford City Football Club do you?'"
I am an Avenue fan.
Bradfords winning team.
Mark 'em tighter!
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| Quote ="hi de hi"I am an Avenue fan.
Bradfords winning team.
Mark 'em tighter!'"
Ah.
Makes sense now.
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| Quote ="childofthenorthern"[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/article/25871/new-buyer-found-for-bulls[/url
Yet in this the RFL are reported to have received an offer and carried out due diligence.
"A spokesman for the RFL confirmed they have received the offer and executive officers carried out 'due diligence' before making a recommendation to the board of directors."
Does this mean there are 2 offers if BCFC haven't put in a formal offer, which couldn't have undergone and scrutiny, or are the various reporters confused?
I'd assume anything on the super league site would have at least a passing connection with red hall so are they misunderstanding the offer?'"
Your guess is as good as mine! Once again it is as clear as extremely thick mud!
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| Quote ="hi de hi"I don't want to see the club fold but there must be a better option than VP. If the club goes there it will see a massive drop in attendances which is the total opposite of what is needed.'"
Unless theres a big sugar daddy behind this bid, a massive reduction in costs is what is needed. with a newco playing at VP with no debts paid off so championship thats a big reduction in stadium costs and players costs that should see the 2010 ÂŁ3.1m cost of sales slashed to a level commensurate with the income from a core of fans. No, for me VP is not an issue, its the academy which is a part of that cost of sales that is the Bulls future, what will happen to that?
thought I posted this at 9.30, coming back from the allotment to discover not so. no doubt further and better particulars have been completely speculated about in the meantime
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| Quote ="hi de hi"All City are bothered about is some way of getting back the lease for ODSAL to fund buying back VP from Flamingo land.'"
..... and all this underhand pillaging would be via an unconditional bid ? Really ?
Now if you'd said that City may be motivated by moving the Bulls to VP. Then they use use their collected leverage to squeeze the Council to fund the purchase of VP for both clubs from a sale of Odsal then ...... possibly.
There has to something in it for City, just like there has to be something in it for any bidder. The fact this bid is supposed to be unconditional rearding the lease suggests they have no interest in Odsal. However if the City are working with the Council and there is a bigger SV picture then I could be wrong.
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