Sound and wise comments.

I guess you have to have endured what we have endured for the whole season to better appreciate why many (most?) of the fans appear to have pretty well just given up. Those in our little group are certainly as guilty of that as the next man.

Seemed to me that both the players and the fans realised that the play offs were a pipe dream. Unfortunatyely yesterday's performance was fairly typical of this year.

I still think the problem is overwhelmingly poor recruitment. We clearly have a few decent young players coming through and given some good signings could start to move forward again. But we need someone capable of finding and signing the hidden gems, rather than players that flatter to deceive.

I know where you're coming from and I agree to a point regarding trying and motivation, but my take was more worrying, I felt there was lots of individual effort being put in yesterday by the majority of the players (some more than others mind). But it was not applied correctly and was not applied as a team, it was all individual stuff. The couple of times we did link up the play with support players we looked dangerous, like for Nero's try, but that was unplanned off the cuff linking up by basically talented players, it was not a planned move or a result of months of drill work and practice.

I think the players are trying, but they dont have the correct structures and cant seem to attack or defend as a team for sustained periods (like 2 40 min spells

), which they will practice doing Im sure, and that is the coaches fault, not getting the practice/game plan to be applied on game day, or getting the practice/game plan wrong from the outset. And if people think its more that the players cannot play at the required level despite good coaching, then IMO the coaching staff ultimatly have to take responsibility for signing/resigning players that are not up to it (even taking into account the unfavourable position this current coaching team inherited, that cannot be a catch all get out clause for all the errors we are seeing week in week out)

McNamara will still be here next year and as well as rethinking his approach to coaching the recuitment of how he spends Solomona, Morrison, BJ, Newtons hefty wedge of the cap will be key to if we can move on [isignificantly [/ifrom this year (shouldn't be too hard to just improve on this years effort really) A new hooker, done so we'll wait and see on that one, two new halfs please (I wish), a new (unlikely), at least 1 new winger, and some ball playing skills at 13 wouldn't go amiss either whilst Im wishing for stuff..... I'm not holding my breath.

There's a link on another thread that says we've signed Brett Delaney Centre. I'll try and find the link.

It may be misplaced blind faith, but I think with a change in some of the senior playing staff and the hard work being done underneath it all, we'll see a much improved club, from 1st team down.

I await to be shot down, but I suppose only time will tell.

Here's the link. www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 09704.html Seems we are linked with Kearney Full Back/Stand Off! Ah well time will tell.

Here's the link. www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 09704.html Seems we are linked with Kearney Full Back/Stand Off! Ah well time will tell.

Delaney has signed for Leeds hasn't he?

Seems so, looks like we get the player with injury history!

Quote ="Spannerz"Here's the link. www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 09704.html Seems we are linked with Kearney Full Back/Stand Off! Ah well time will tell.'" Anyone else spot any parallels with the main article?

Quote ="Spannerz"Here's the link. www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 09704.html Seems we are linked with Kearney Full Back/Stand Off! Ah well time will tell.'" Anyone else spot any parallels with the main article?

I did last night. Obviously its a completely different and not comparable situation though...clearly...

Well no two situations are exactly the same, but the rough out line of the story is similar.

Infact change the names and the detail (scores teams etc) and you could have been reading about us!

Quote ="Spannerz"Here's the link. www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 09704.html Seems we are linked with Kearney Full Back/Stand Off! Ah well time will tell.'" Well it'd be a little bit depressing if we signed Kearney when he has managed less than 12 games a year since Cronulla signed him four years ago, given the reason Glen is off is that we can't keep him on the field because of injuries. I know that their ages are different but Kearney would be a real gamble and is hardly proven in the halves. I hope it's not a desperate move after failing to get Wing.

Quote ="Spannerz"Here's the link. www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhqnews ... 09704.html Seems we are linked with Kearney Full Back/Stand Off! Ah well time will tell.'" Well it'd be a little bit depressing if we signed Kearney when he has managed less than 12 games a year since Cronulla signed him four years ago, given the reason Glen is off is that we can't keep him on the field because of injuries. I know that their ages are different but Kearney would be a real gamble and is hardly proven in the halves. I hope it's not a desperate move after failing to get Wing.

Er...I think you need to improve the sensitivity of your sarcasm detector!!

Its certainly looking that way. If there is to be a change it would be better sooner rather than later. I suppose its possible that we are lining up an aussie coach but would not be able to announce it until the end of the NRL season. But it doesnt look like we could replace MacNamara before the recruitment for next season is completed.

I haven't been following NRL much recently but it might be interesting to see how many of the coaches of - say - the bottom 3 clubs in the NRL over the past few seasons have kept their jobs. Seeing as they have been dealing with the franchise system longer and are therefore fully aware of all the alleged benefits of franchising - ie no relegation, can bring through youngsters, time to strategically develop a club, no knee-jerk sacking of coaches etc.

Maybe Hood has been discussing the recruitment with our new coach then suggesting it to Macca? Maybe Des Hasler wants to work with a lot of his current team

Its possible but unlikely in the extreme I reckon, and if I were making a change I'd go with a whole new clean sweep and bring in an NRL coach.

But I'll be astonished if McNamara is not here at the start of next season.

Out of interest, I wonder what Hood's limit is for McNamara? He must have one, no more wins this year? No wins in first 10 next year? Missing the playoffs next year??... or just wait until McNamaras contract runs itself out as he doesn't want to to sack him but cant be seen to extend it?

A fellow fan was on about this yesterday seeing as it was odds on that Salford nd Celtic would finish 13th and 14th this season so that means that we are bottom of the established super league clubs.

The problem is that if we start the season with McNamara and start badly, he effectively becomes a dead duck coach. We're then faced with the choice of waiting until his contract expires and writing off the season, or sacking him early in the season when good replacements are hard to find.

I'm not sure the club would survive another season like this.

Surely he became that this season!

Thank god - I was crestfallen when I saw the post before. Thought I'd lost a hero, it was like when Fairbank retired!

Oi! Is there not a better phrase to use??



I think FA said a while ago that he had an air of a dead man walking, but he's survived. And if he's survived to this point I really think he'l survive untill next season.

I agree with what you say though, and its not what I would do, I'm just saying with what I have heard/seen/read I just reckon thats what the club are thinking so i've not bothered to come up with a replacement coach name thats not required.

For me its making me more loyal if that makes sense. because of dwindling numbers I find myself making more effort to get to games I also spent a little bit at the shop. Every time I think its the one where everything clicks but unfortunately the team is hamstrung by the Deacon/Newton combination.

Saw some good things - a much improved Langley, Scruton maintaining recent form, the Nero/Taduala partnership looked very good. Whitehead and Donaldson kicked on well with the former impressing with his chase back for Howells 2nd try (unfortunately not enough). Both will be good assets for us.

Not sure who was responsible for the Howell try when he cut back in. Someone should have put a shoulder in but it was an excellent angle

But like you its blind at the moment

having watched the "game" yesterday, i noticed a few things.

Fans are expecting a poor performance with no heart and this is reflected in the lack of vocal support.

When we did go into the lead most people around me expected us to loose it fairly swiftly (which we did)

When the Quins player borke the line and went full length of the field, no one expected the team to try and actually catch him (bar Halley) Once we were behind with 5 minutes to go the team woke up a bit (wtf is that all about) we showed some agression and heart for about a minute before letting Quins score again.

Terry needs leaving out of the team now, granted he set up a try but for the rest of his time on the pitch we wer dis jointed and out of ideas, Wagga seems to have a better influence on the team.

Amazingly it seems Macca has pre ordained time to bring the gash players on regardless of whats going on on the pitch, taking orrison off and putting worrincey on left me gasping for air..

Surely a ccoach under pressure with a team underperforming should be pitchside forthe ENITRE game. not sendign messages down, Macca had the air f "couldnt be d" on the way back up to his crows nest with the joyful and crappy assitant Basil close behind...

What next for this season? mroe rappy performances backed up Maccas pointles positive chats which despite everything said every week never has the desired response, how many times can we work hard and take positives fro ma game in which their were few. the lack of supporters is a worry but why should people be expected to turn up an watch 17 player nopt give a for 80 minutes...grrr

Exactly. Although the crowd were willing them to do something, anything to encourage a rise in the crowd noise and noticeably this happened usually when someone would make a good hit up and make yards in teh tackle. Equally, for those spells where we were defending very well in our own quarter, there was generous support and applause. But maybe the long spells where there is little or no crowd noise reflect the spells where there is little or no discernible effort on the field? Like ineffectual one man walking plunges?


Exactly. It's a point I've made many times, you don't know [ihow[/i we'll blow it (and the methods are many, varied and ingenious) - but you just know we [iwill[/i blow it.


Exactly - deja vu.


Very true. That is not the first time either, which is why . . .



I did indeed, and he still does.