If you take what Monster said for the other 3 clubs, but only 1 win for Wire against Quins (surely not...?) then on my guesses we'd finish 8th with 5 from 6 wins. And still 8th winning the lot. So yes, if its Wire go into their traditional late-term meltdown (oh please...oh please...) the I'd agree.

Hope springs eternal, although I feel you are making a BIG assumption regarding the Wire. That said...you putting money on it with the bookies? I suspect you'd get good odds!

Basically, we're nine games from Old Trafford.

And I'm six numbers from a lottery jackpot...

Oddly enough, the only places offering odds have us only a fraction of a shade of odds behind Catalans and Warrington.

But you don't think Wire can beat Quins at home? Oh well if you're right then we must be top-8 certainties!

The 50/50 record would put us 7th/8th now. Is there reason to believe that the bar will have been raised by the end of the season?

. For those of a mathematical bent, I reckon our chances of hitting Peter Hood's target of a decent run in the play-offs (six out of six then two in the post-season?) is x^8, where x is the average chance of success Bradford have in each game. Even if we were a rampant 9 times out of ten side, we'd only have a slightly better than two in five shout. And if we're round and about a 50/50 shot in each, I reckon we're a 0.3% chance of doing it. That's about the odds you have of winning a tenner on the lottery, isn't it?

Happy to send you my spreadsheet so you can try it for yourself!

You (deliberately...surely not!

) misinterpret what I said! Of course they can. My observation was regarding whether them only winning that one game is realistic!

Perhaps we could sneak Menzies into one of their training sessions and get him to breathe over them?

how does your spreadsheet look regarding points difference? The bulls are looking at -100 with wakey, wire and quins at under -10.

Fortunately, does not matter provided no more matches are drawn. We are on an odd number of points and the rest are on evens, so we would end up either ahead or behind each of those, never on the same points.

I did say at the outset that my model did not allow for draws. Obviously if draws happen then if necessary I'd have to build in something for points difference. Except I won't cos I can't be d. This was a quick exercise mainly for my own interest to determine what realistically were our chances.

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We'll probably go the same again next week then. For once i'm not raving that I want Deacon dropped because he's starting to show improvement. As long as Burgess and Halley are ok to play then I think we'll see the same 17. If they aren't then I'd put Platt at FB, Kopzcak on bench in place of Burgess and then maybe Cook (?) or someone else at centre. Based on the last few games I don't think Sykes should be moved back to centre and as good as Jeffries has been I don't think we should move Sykes to accomodate him when we know which one will be here next season.

Might the perfect opportunity to give Hyde a go?

At FB you mean presumably?


I wouldn't mind seeing that, but tbh I can't see Macca doing that and I do hope Halley is fit anyway.

Back in 2002 I prepared a similar spreadsheet at about this time of the year. At the end of the regular season I found that I had correctly predicted the entire top 6 or 7. That was no mean feat considering that there were considerable changes in position during that period. However when I looked at the individual matches I discovered that the accuracy of my predictions was less than 60%!

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Google to find out more information (FWIW this is a legitimate organisation - they published an interesting book on 'Greek Love' I have been reading. pics all from ancient vases no smut).

Resurrected this thread to find out who I need to cheer for tonight.

Am I correct in assuming we need Huddersfield to beat Hull and Salford to beat Wakefield? Or does it not matter?

Saints - Wigan? Who cares?

Salford winning would be a bonus and I'd cheer for Saints tonight I think.

From memory...Hudds Salford Stains

I think Wigan are pretty well guaranteed Top 8 and Hull are going to be really struggling.

The key match is Wakefield - currently on 22 points. If they win they move to 24 (yes...really

) taking them nine points clear of us

So a win for Wakey, but loss for Wire today. Thats got to be good news for us I guess?

Win for Wakey was expected but shîte for us.

Loss for Wire (for the first time in history, thank God for Scott bloody Donald and yet another last-minute steal) is again as expected (but only just!!) and in our favour.

In my calculator, we still have to win every game AND other results go in our favour to have any chance. And in other news, airborne porkers have been seen circling over Bradford today...