Kear isn't anything special anyway, out of about 2 years coaching all he's got to his name are two measley challenge cups and countless relegation fights.

And can you see McNamara winning anything? Every team Kear has coach has improved during his reign, and the 2 measly Challenge Cups were won with massive underdogs. Three years ago we won our last game to stay up, this year we we finished 5th and expect a run in the play offs.

Kear was certainly a triumph when he coached England.

As was Noble

Quite, but at least Nobby coached the side to some wins.

The truth about Noble is that he inherited a good side, jumped ship when it started going downhill, spent money above the salary cap to keep Wigan up, struggled since then and now going to a club with no expectations where he can't really lose. Poor coach

Nonsense. Next you'll be saying the only reason Tony Smith has been successful is because he inherited good sides from Powell and Cullen

And you're talking out of your .

Hmm.

Nobby, SL GF X3, CC X1, WWC X3

OK Then.

Bradford were in decline when he left. Wigan were bottom when he took over, so again nothing to lose. Same with Celtic. If he's such a good coach I couldn't see Wigan letting him go. He also quit Britain before he was found out. Couldn't fasten Kear's boot laces.

Bless, you are special.

I can see an argument that Kear is better than McNamara. Kear is capable of taking sides to mid-table and no better. Macca hasn't reached that yet, although he does have time on his side and it wouldn't take much improvement to overtake Kear.

Kear could never claim to be close to Noble. I imagine that he would tell you that himself.

Your entitled to your opinion. But your wrong. NcNamara is hopeless. And Noble was lucky. He's been found out.

Lucky lots of times then. How lucky is that?

Im not Nobles biggest fan on this board by a long shot (I reckon our team got slightly worse each season from 2001), but, even I have to question this, how do you "luckily" get to 5 grand finals in row? and how do you "luckily" hold all 4 available trophies at the same time??? Whatever you want to troll about, however good kear is and whatever you think of Noble you cant argue with his achievements.

No doubt you will now list the evidence in support of your claims?

Or, failing that, admit that it is only YOUR opinion - to which you are entitled - and that people will be entitled to say that YOU are wrong?

btw...could you maybe explain why the good folk of Wakefield do not seem to be as impressed with Kear as you seem to be, given that 13% less people on average turned up to Belle Vue this year compared with last? Despite the team's best performance in recent history.

Because we're in the middle of a recession maybe?

As stated, Bradford got worse every season, that is not the sign of a good coach. The side he inherited carried him for the first few years. And when he realised that a side full of power but no flair can only get you so far he jumped ship. And created a Wigan side full of power and no flair! Does anyone really think he will change these tatics at Celtic?

And yet they won all 4 available trophies in the middle of his spell.

If you really think all Noble's success was luck, you truly are an idiot of the very highest order.

I actually think your an idiot. Probably one of those Bradford fans who never went before pre Super League, not really interested in the rugby, just goes for the pre match entertainment. Because you clearly no nothing about the game.

If you're going to call someone an idiot, I'd recommend learning how to spell.

That's not even mentioning the "before pre Super League" bit.

There is a certain irony to you suggesting someone knows nothing about the game though, after declaring 5 Grand Finals on the trot, 3 Super League Titles, a Challenge Cup, a Minor Premiership and 3 World Club Challenges, is lucky.

Know nothing.

And yes DILLIGAF is quite clearly a total idiot. Well spotted.

I will say again, it was lucky. Lucky coach. As proved everywhere else he has coached.

And Kear was/is mediocre in comparison to Nobby.

Indeed, making this a lucky season for Wakey. Maybe Kear will get 1/10th of Nobby's luck and Wakefield may win something.

Kear is not mediocre. We were bottom when he took over 3 years ago. We are now 5th.

We were not champions when Noble took over. We were 1, 3 and 5 years later.

If you're going to use an argument, at least use one that doesn't work against your own earlier points!