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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Are we heading towards shorter contracts across the board in general?
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The general idea of signing people for less than season long contracts doesnt really appeal to me. The Rinaldi may well be in a similar light to the Tadulala contract issues last year in which he wanted to prove himself to the club in order to get a bigger wage.
I cannot understand why we havent resigned Morro, unless he doesnt want to sign again. Also, would anybody object to Beaver playing another season or 2 on this form? Other than perhaps Mrs Beaver. I'd love to see Menzies resign too.
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| Quote ="cieranblonde"The general idea of signing people for less than season long contracts doesnt really appeal to me. The Rinaldi may well be in a similar light to the Tadulala contract issues last year in which he wanted to prove himself to the club in order to get a bigger wage.
I cannot understand why we havent resigned Morro, unless he doesnt want to sign again. Also, would anybody object to Beaver playing another season or 2 on this form? Other than perhaps Mrs Beaver. I'd love to see Menzies resign too.'"
By that i didnt mean them as two players. Just hammering in my point.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"Are we heading towards shorter contracts across the board in general?
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I dont know about accross the board, but I think we wil see more and more of these type of deals as clubs learn how to mange the cap money with the "live" monitoring, it builds in some flexibility that can be missing when spending up to the full cap in the off season recruitment drive. And also we could see contract length fall more in line with the licence period (if it hasn't already), especially for clubs who are not in the A or B licence brackets.
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| Quote ="Duckman"And also we could see contract length fall more in line with the licence period (if it hasn't already), especially for clubs who are not in the A or B licence brackets.'"
I'm pretty certain most contracts are super league contracts and become void should the club not get a licence. You'd really want to sign players over decent length contracts if you're thinking of them the core of your side and not find you've got half your squad out of contract at the same time.
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| Not a long term solution to our problems, but I expect he will come in do a decent job for us. We desperately needed cover for 6/7/9 and we have a player who is experienced and proven at SL. Hope we're working hard to secure some longer term quality signings though.
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| I can certainly see some benefits to 1/2 year contracts for everyone. Prove your worth, review the needs of the squad year to year more easily.
But on the flip side it gives instability to players and clubs alike and would result in much more player movement IMO.
I do feel longer term deals are thrown out too easily though. Certainly for players who (from the outside) need to prove themselves!
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"
I do feel longer term deals are thrown out too easily though. Certainly for players who (from the outside) need to prove themselves!'"
Platt?
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| Quote ="Ewwenorfolk"Platt?'"
I wasn't naming names, but yes, he'd be one.
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| Quote ="Wigan Bull"I wasn't naming names, but yes, he'd be one.'"
And could we also be thinking of one certain Scrum Half and a coach with big fish lips?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Not a long term solution to our problems, but I expect he will come in do a decent job for us. We desperately needed cover for 6/7/9 and we have a player who is experienced and proven at SL. Hope we're working hard to secure some longer term quality signings though.'"
seems a decent short term solution to the problems at 6/7/9 with advantage that we dont need to wait 6-8 weeks for him to get a visa. One sneaky thought that I had was maybe we've already identified and signed a longer term target and arent announcing it till visa issues are resolved and rinaldi is a stopgap till whoever it is arrives
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| He deffo fits the gap, but it would be better to have an academy player stepping up. It's not like you'd be risking an unbeaten run or anything.
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| Julien is a good solid player who us Quins RL supporters were sad to see go. You guys do appear to be turning into a haven for former Quins though, eh?
To be serious though, I hope Julien does his bit to get you guys up towards the top of the table where you deserve to be.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"He deffo fits the gap, but it would be better to have an academy player stepping up. It's not like you'd be risking an unbeaten run or anything.'"
I see that on the Catalans forum you were advocating a short term SL deal (for the benefit of the French national team) for Gresque. Do you think he would have been a better bet than Rinaldi (though not giving hooker cover) in these circumstances?
Incidentally, why is Rinaldi 'Judas'?
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| Quote ="Surreyben"Julien is a good solid player who us Quins RL supporters were sad to see go. You guys do appear to be turning into a haven for former Quins though, eh?
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Because we have 4 former quins players?
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| Quote ="MDF"I see that on the Catalans forum you were advocating a short term SL deal (for the benefit of the French national team) for Gresque. Do you think he would have been a better bet than Rinaldi (though not giving hooker cover) in these circumstances?
Incidentally, why is Rinaldi 'Judas'?'" Gresque will never be good enough for super league . In his two spells at Wakefield his always been found wanting.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Gresque will never be good enough for super league . In his two spells at Wakefield his always been found wanting.'"
When does he sign?
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| Quote ="MDF"I see that on the Catalans forum you were advocating a short term SL deal (for the benefit of the French national team) for Gresque. Do you think he would have been a better bet than Rinaldi (though not giving hooker cover) in these circumstances?
Incidentally, why is Rinaldi 'Judas'?'"
Actually I was saying that Greseque should not be allowed into the national side unless he tests himself at a higher level, i.e. short term Champ or SL contract. From his international appearances I think he would have been a better fly-half, Rinaldi has played as a hooker for the last 3 years. It's a non-starter though, as Pia wouldn't let him go and I believe he's injured atm. There are a number of other French halves who are pretty promising, but I'd hope that your academy would provide the same caliber.
Rinaldi is 'Judas' for the same reason Paul Cooke is and Iestin Harris was, signing for the other side in a majour derby. Boo, hiss, dirty Quinz!
He's a decent player, I'd rather have him at the Catalans than Bird, but purely for natonalistic/xenophobic reasons. I rate Bently above him as a hooker but would like to see how he would do in an all-french half-back pairing.
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Arrives Monday according to Eddie H
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He's currently sat somewhere with his head in his hands asking himself what the f**k he has done.
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Quote ="Rinaldi"sacre bleu. Les torreax sont un sac de merde '"
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| Quote ="Asim"He's currently sat somewhere with his head in his hands asking himself what the f**k he has done.'"
Looking forward to some quality rugby on Sunday. Just didn't expect to have to go to bramley to see it.
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| Quote ="AJW"Looking forward to some quality rugby on Sunday. Just didn't expect to have to go to bramley to see it.'"
Have you watched them play, it's not quality rugby. You want to watch Stanningley over bramley.
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| Quote ="AJW"Looking forward to some quality rugby on Sunday. Just didn't expect to have to go to bramley to see it.'"
Indeed, and even if the quality is lacking at times the desire and effort certainly won't be.
Which is more than what we can say about tonight's shambles.
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