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| Quote ="mat"was referring to leons prior misdemeanor- afaik pryce and reardon havent been found guilty of anything yet and if they are then my opinion on pryce returning to bulls would probably be amended. You can only judge someone on facts as proven in a court- not allegations in papers which may or may not be true.
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| Quote ="Lenny The Loiner2"Haven't they been charged and had an initial hearing? A bit more than allegations in a paper is it not?'"
true - but still not proved and convicted in which case I'd seriously imagine pryce's RL career would be over and him returning to bradford would no longer be an issue
when is case due? people keep going on about disruptive effect of birds case in april, but bulls have a proven halves combination to cover that situation and also rest of season assuming worst outcome. Saints season however would effectively be de-railed should pryce be convicted
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| Quote ="mat"true - but still not proved and convicted in which case I'd seriously imagine pryce's RL career would be over and him returning to bradford would no longer be an issue
when is case due? people keep going on about disruptive effect of birds case in april, but bulls have a proven halves combination to cover that situation and also rest of season assuming worst outcome. Saints season however would effectively be de-railed should pryce be convicted
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| Quote ="mat"yep - diff is leon was sentenced and served his sentence - cant hold it against him forever. If bird is found innocent then all well and good, if he's guilty then I have mixed feeling
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| Quote ="redeverready"But Pryce is still in trouble and more than likely you'd have him back so whats the difference with Bird.'"
which is exactly why I have mixed feeling about the signing - as I've repeatedly said
I'd have pryce back based on the previous glassing incident which he's already been punished for. I would probably change my opinion based on the outcome of his current court case. Although given the current he wouldnt get in the team at his favoured position and would have to settle for a spot
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| Quote ="mat"true - but still not proved and convicted in which case I'd seriously imagine pryce's RL career would be over and him returning to bradford would no longer be an issue
when is case due? people keep going on about disruptive effect of birds case in april, but bulls have a proven halves combination to cover that situation and also rest of season assuming worst outcome. Saints season however would effectively be de-railed should pryce be convicted
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I have similar concerns Mat but if anything Bird has been sacked by his club prior to the court case whereas Leon was not sacked despite being found guilty. Even if Bird's and Leon's situ was exactly the same are we saying that lads who've been convicted (and Bird hasn't) shouldn't be allowed to work again. If he's found not guilty then we must accept his inocence and if he's found guilty it's not our problem as he'll most likely go down.
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| Quote ="Beechwood Bull"...if he's found guilty it's not our problem as he'll most likely go down.'"
What? How do you work that one out? What if he gets found guilty of say no more than the Australian equivalent of common assault, for example? I don't think you can say "most likely" at all.
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| Quote ="Ricky Stuart"He has a point to prove.
Greg plans to go to the English Super League to play a season there, then come back to Australia and rebuild his NRL career.
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[url=http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,24925118-10389,00.htmlLink[/url.
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| Quote ="Beechwood Bull"Playing by the end of next month it says in the T & A Mac'"
How many Oz players have gone through the visa/w-p process in less than 10-12 weeks since the new processing came into operation half way through last season? None I am aware of.
If the nightclub assault case is still going ahead in mid March I assume he would have to appear at the case. Even if guilty he would be eligible to play in the UK.
the back end of march would be more likely and then back to Oz after around 2/3 games for the bigger trial.
If guilty on the 'actual bodily harm charge' (even if he is given comunity service) he will not play for you again. If he comes through okay then ready to go from May.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What? How do you work that one out? What if he gets found guilty of say no more than the Australian equivalent of common assault, for example? I don't think you can say "most likely" at all.'"
He's been charged with reckless wounding, assault occasioning actual bodily harm and two charges of lying to police. The actual bodily harm is a fractured eye socket so how is he going to be found guilty of common assault?
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It will be interesting to see how things go. He may well only play a year, most likely not even a full one in 09. But if he enjoys his rugby and settles in the team.. he may take up the remaining years. I expect he'll initially enjoy getting away from the higher media profile that he currently has in Aus.
A lot can happen in six months.. for the time being I just hope we see the international class player he can be whilst wearing a Bulls shirt this season.
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| Quote ="Marsdengiant"How many Oz players have gone through the visa/w-p process in less than 10-12 weeks since the new processing came into operation half way through last season? None I am aware of.
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| Dont worry,if he doesnt get his Visa he can always blame someone else.
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| Hang your heads in shame Bulls Club Board. This fool should not even be in the country never mind playing in our league. Its nothing short of a disgrace and the RFL should have stopped it. What sort of message does this send out to kids. Talk about double standards. I suppose the term "win at all costs" is the new motto at Bradford.
I would like to know how Carney and Croker are stumbling with their visas and he is ok. You should put an advert in the Bradford job centres. "Glass your missus and play for the Bulls".
Unbloodybelievable.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Hang your heads in shame Bulls Club Board. This fool should not even be in the country never mind playing in our league. Its nothing short of a disgrace and the RFL should have stopped it. What sort of message does this send out to kids. Talk about double standards. I suppose the term "win at all costs" is the new motto at Bradford.
I would like to know how Carney and Croker are stumbling with their visas and he is ok. You should put an advert in the Bradford job centres. "Glass your missus and play for the Bulls".
Unbloodybelievable.
How can Chef Walker loose 12 months of his career in the nick for a fight outside a club and he, doesn't do a day in jail but walks straight into a job over here.
RFL answer that. You must have some very influential board members.'"
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Erm . . . .do you think(rhetorical) it could have been because Chav was found guilty in a court of law, perhaps??
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| Quote ="Bullpower"Erm . . . .do you think(rhetorical) it could have been because Chav was found guilty in a court of law, perhaps??
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I bet he doesn't.
I have been talking about this signing with THE bird today and she's a season ticket holder also and sees this the same as me. I honestly can't say what I think about this. Aside from the obvious problems relating to his fitness, preparation, guilt or not, morality of the signing etc. Can we hold our heads up above Hull, Hull KR, Wigan, Leeds, Warrington, Huddersfield, Saints, Cas etc because we don't have thugs playing for us whether he is or he isn't? But again if he turns out to be good both of us have said we might no longer have any reservations about him. It's left me in ethical limbo. I just hope he is actually a nice young lad that hasn't done anything really bad got himself in a situation through stupidity and will turn his life around with Bradford.
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Bird will come back to OZ in 2010.He is just biding his time until the NRL allow him to play.Cronulla coach Ricki Stuart said Bird will be out to prove a point in 2010 back in NRL.
I think the club would be better investing their time and money into rewarding loyalty to players that want to play for the club,not to ones that have a year to fill in.Will our players off contract this year have to wait around to see if Bird is staying?We may loose loyal players if this is the case.
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Bird will come back to OZ in 2010.He is just biding his time until the NRL allow him to play.Cronulla coach Ricki Stuart said Bird will be out to prove a point in 2010 back in NRL.
I think the club would be better investing their time and money into rewarding loyalty to players that want to play for the club,not to ones that have a year to fill in.Will our players off contract this year have to wait around to see if Bird is staying?We may loose loyal players if this is the case.
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