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| The only two positives were Walker and Blackmore. Enough said. Embarrassing when your winger takes more carries and makes more yards that the entire forward pack.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"This squad isn’t this bad.'" That is part of the the problem. Too many times we just turn up thinking we can turn teams over because our squad on paper looks good. Keighley away. York away. Batley home.
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| Gary gary is pants and Walker a headless chicken.
Fax owned you. Bye.
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| Quote ="Encouraged"Gary gary is pants and Walker a headless chicken.
Fax owned you. Bye.'"
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| I’m h a pp y I’m h a pp y I know I am I’m sure I am I’m h a pp y .
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| Sadly its time for me to ask questions. Ive been more than happy to defend Dunning since last year.
Time now to ask is he the man? Big game after big game we cant get up for it.
Never lopked like scoring. Clueless on attack . Absolutley pathetic
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Sadly its time for me to ask questions. Ive been more than happy to defend Dunning since last year.
Time now to ask is he the man? Big game after big game we cant get up for it.
Never lopked like scoring. Clueless on attack . Absolutley pathetic'"
The status quo has been amended.
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| Worst part about losing is having to have the inbreds come online and open their mouths haha.
Anyway. Now that it’s settled a little. We really need a re-think. Thought Walker and Blackmore were our best performers. Gill went alright but his defence was shaky (it always has been but masked by his try scoring).
We look miles better with Lilley at 9 rather than in the halves where he was just poor. Probably Appo’s worst game for us. Time to move him back into the middle rather than an edge. Butler was poor once again.
At the moment I’m really struggling to justify Thompson’s inclusion as well. He’s been poor since he came back from injury.
Never thought I’d say this but by god we are missing Lawrence and Baldwinson.
The coach really does need to go. He’s useless. Got the job just for being an assistant. Get someone in now and get this season up an running instead of wasting it.
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| Bet Rowan smith is fed up of that phone ringing tonight.
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| We beat them a few weeks ago with a pack boosted massively by short-term imports not available today. No point in using such players unless regularly available. Backs have no chance behind a beaten pack - A golden rule of rugby! Credit due for guts shown in second-half.
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| Clutching at straws maybe but I thought our youngsters Jowitt and Myers were amongst our best players. They made mistakes but at least they kept trying and showed desire, unlike several others.
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| We paggered you. Bye.
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| Absolutely shocking display.
Dunning is a nice bloke and is Bulls through and through but he's just not up to the job. We do have some quality in the team but he's just not getting it out of them. We were clueless in attack and defence last night. Once in the opposition 20 we have no structure and just seem to be making it up as we go along. The Patton kick to Gill does work but not every other set and opposition coaches soon are wise to it.
Maybe he has lost the dressing room and if that's the case there is no way back for him. He just doesn't seem to be able to get the players up for big games.
Walker, Jowett, Myers and Blackmore were the only players to come to come out of last night with any credibility. Blackmore may be better suited to second row as he was making more ground in the collision than the forwards.
Dunning needs to go, end of. Someone like Ward could possibly make us a top 6 team but I don't think we have the coin to employ someone of that ilk.
Aside from this I thought the TV coverage was terrible. Constant shots of the crowd instead of the game. No mention that Walker had gone off and Kear still thought he was at full back when it was Jowett also kept calling Myers James instead of Jayden. He coached him last year for heavens sake.
Nothing will probably happen with what Dunning calls "the process" but we live in hope.
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| I’m puzzled.
Did we have an agreement with Halifax that nobody would tackle Louis Jouffret?
Help me out, guys
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| Good Morning all. Happy St George's Day! icon_biggrin.gif
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| It's puzzling how we can put in a quality spirited performance two weeks earlier and then come up with that effort and the Batley result. I know a few empty heads will point to Leeds dual reg, but in reality that is a couple of players in a 17 man squad who don't account for such a huge swing in performance.
I never thought Dunning should have got the job, the whole selection process was a farce dressed up to cut corners and try do something else on the cheap. I think we've seen enough now to be sure he is a well meaning and loyal Bradford guy but a bang average coach. He doesn't have the skills to get that extra 10% and develop a gameplan that makes us an awkward team to play against.
With the players we have should be doing a lot better, not seeing these blow out performances and then a shock result every now and then. I'm sure Dunning could continue a role at the club, but he isn't going to improve this side beyond what we've seen so far. So over to the board to decide what they expect to achieve on the budgets provided.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I’m puzzled.
Did we have an agreement with Halifax that nobody would tackle Louis Jouffret?
Help me out, guys'"
Losing Holmes early will impact some of the attacking structure I suppose, but why no desire in defence? We were as poor yesterday as Fax were 2 weeks ago. It improved slightly in the 2nd half but the damage was done.
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"I’m puzzled.
Did we have an agreement with Halifax that nobody would tackle Louis Jouffret?
Help me out, guys'"
Thats what happen when you have a half back with pace. We have the slowest half combination know to man.
Serious question.
When was the last time Lilley or Paton made a break where they have took the line on and beat a man?
The pair of them are garbage.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"
I never thought Dunning should have got the job, the whole selection process was a farce dressed up to cut corners and try do something else on the cheap. I think we've seen enough now to be sure he is a well meaning and loyal Bradford guy but a bang average coach. He doesn't have the skills to get that extra 10% and develop a gameplan that makes us an awkward team to play against.'"
That’s a good point. What are we cutting corners on? Preparation? Training time? Staff? All these things will cause variation in performance. So if we’re running reserves, we could have 35? 40? players in a training session. I understand budget constraints but with our commitment to putting out 7 teams there needs to be matched funding for staff as well.
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| Quote ="RagingBull"Thats what happen when you have a half back with pace. We have the slowest half combination know to man.
Serious question.
When was the last time Lilley or Paton made a break where they have took the line on and beat a man?
The pair of them are garbage.'"
We’re bang out of luck there. Holmes was signed as our first choice half for this season and he’s only played in that position 3minutes of the first game of the season and about 15minutes last night?
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| “Unpopular opinion” not sure if it would have made a difference to the score line but I do think Wallace not in at SR made us weaker. He may not be the explosive runner like Appo but his work rate, play the ball, winning the ruck and scrambling defence is much higher. Patton and Gill definitely benefit him being there. Apart from the Keighley 70% of the opposition tries seem to come from the other side and the times when Wallace has been Hitman of the week has purely been because of his work rate. I believe that side is stronger when it’s Patton, wallace, gill and tindle (when he’s available)
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| Agree about Dunning.
I've said the jury's still out on him. He deserves credit for some of the changes he's brought in as we were completely rotten last year. He's coached us to some great victories this year, which he deserves credit for. The Fev defeat I thought we were turning a corner in our consistency. As even though we lost, we played well over a number of weeks.
But these type of performances where the games over by HT are becoming too common. Especially against our rivals. Just not acceptable. I thought Fax would win yesterday, they're a decent team, at home and would have been hurting from us beating them two weeks ago. But a game of that magnitude, where i thought the winner would go on to lift the trophy, for it to be over by HT is in excusable.
Our next 4 of our next 5 games are against teams towards the bottom of the table, plus Keighley. So if we win all 5 things may look a little better at the half way point of the season. But do I trust Dunning to get us all 5 victories? More likely we'll beat Barrow, Swinton get a good win against Keighley and then lose to London at home.
Not good enough.
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| As a neutral i thought Bradford were pretty poor.
I keep upto date with what's going on through the internet, league Express etc.
Firstly i thought the BBC coverage was amateur at best. I'm sure a fan could have done as well with a mobile phone.
2 options close up at the play the ball and then zoom out as far as possible so you can't even see who has the ball.
This was a game of how loan players disrupt teams. You have a spine of players who are pretty much in the team week in week out and then players who come in for the odd game then go back to there club and then expect a player to come in and play out of his skin only to be told he's not playing the week after.
From what i can see you have ascholarship, reserves etc. Surly reserves are where your players come from or is that too old fashioned these days.
Leigh and Keighley showed how it was done last season. Put the money in and keep putting money in so you get where you want to be.
I know all teams don't have bottomless pockets but I would rather watch my team lose with local lads that have come through the system than a make shift team turning out week after week.
Img will ruin the game. Americans don't understand rugby league end of.
Our country has it's own identity on promotion and relegation and that's the way it should stay.
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| Quote ="Mr Hicks"As a neutral i thought Bradford were pretty poor.
I keep upto date with what's going on through the internet, league Express etc.
Firstly i thought the BBC coverage was amateur at best. I'm sure a fan could have done as well with a mobile phone.
2 options close up at the play the ball and then zoom out as far as possible so you can't even see who has the ball.
This was a game of how loan players disrupt teams. You have a spine of players who are pretty much in the team week in week out and then players who come in for the odd game then go back to there club and then expect a player to come in and play out of his skin only to be told he's not playing the week after.
From what i can see you have ascholarship, reserves etc. Surly reserves are where your players come from or is that too old fashioned these days.
Leigh and Keighley showed how it was done last season. Put the money in and keep putting money in so you get where you want to be.
I know all teams don't have bottomless pockets but I would rather watch my team lose with local lads that have come through the system than a make shift team turning out week after week.
Img will ruin the game. Americans don't understand rugby league end of.
Our country has it's own identity on promotion and relegation and that's the way it should stay.'"
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| All banter and joking aside, well most of it, these last two games have really highlighted in a nutshell the disgrace that is dual reg. Shame on those who use it and who allow it to be used. I include Fax in that as well obviously.
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