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| Ill say it then, they said SL need the bulls!!! so if Leeds go down tough to SL, however i think it will be London.
If SL do pull up the ladder then the Championship should find a better sponsor than Sky as most of the money will go to SL anyway and we get little or no coverage.
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| I’d like to see Hull KR relegated purely so Ethan Ryan’s contract becomes null and void, hopefully then we might keep him!
I’d love Wakey or Huddersfield to come down. It would be karma indeed.
I don’t have the hatred for Leeds anymore like I used to. They helped us out massively when we were struggling and sent so many players to is on loan even though they could have quite easily sent them to their dual reg club. And to see them go down would be a disaster for RL.
I’ll be gutted if London come down. Especially after being loyal to the lads that got them promoted. I’d like to see them build.
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| On "RL Backchat" a couple of weeks ago Francis Cummins said that that no way would the RFL let Leeds be relegated
So some Teams are more favoured than others which is wrong,unfortunately I think it will be London making the drop
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| I always assumed there would be anEGM of SL the next day if Leeds finished bottom. At that egm, the decision would be made to increase SL to 13 or 14 teams
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| Quote ="bentleyman"On "RL Backchat" a couple of weeks ago Francis Cummins said that that no way would the RFL let Leeds be relegated
So some Teams are more favoured than others which is wrong,unfortunately I think it will be London making the drop'"
And everyone said the same about us... too many fans, the biggest huge draw in SL at the time....all the same stuff they are saying now.
I don't want Leeds down. I'd imagine their spending power would far outstrip the rest of the championship so 2020 would be another holding pattern for the rest of the clubs...
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| Because of the gobby bell ends that run Wankfield and Hull KR I am going to laugh my head off when one of them is relegated it will serve them right completely.
However, it won’t be this year unfortunately. With Toronto going up this time one of them are toast next season without a doubt. Probably Wakefield.
Just in time for them to be on the receiving end of the cuts in funding as a result of the vote those two shysters were so keen to push through. Karma for their appalling behaviour. Plus both clubs have fans that were quite quick to fling sh173 at us.
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| I can't get my head around David Hughes' approach to this season. How many millions has he put into the Broncos over the last 15-20 years? And then when they finally get their chance back in the top flight, he tightens the purse strings and leaves them with no money to strengthen the squad? I just don't get it.
If I was a Broncos fan I'd be furious because there are three or four SL teams doing their best to drop out of the top flight this season and yet London are more than likely going to save their blushes because of their lack of activity in the transfer market.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011" I don’t have the hatred for Leeds anymore like I used to.'"
Hatred is a strong word and I guess you've got your reasons for disliking the Leeds Rhinos (As have all Bradford Northern/Bulls fans)
I went to St Blaise and then Cardinal Hinsley GS despite living outside of Bradford and I was also the only Leeds RL supporter in both schools,You can guess the abuse I got whilst at school when Northern beat Leeds
I then worked at a printers in Bradford at a time when Leeds regularly got beat by Northern and then the Bulls,So I pretty much had to eat humble pie for the duration of both my High school education years and then 8 years of employment until I changed jobs in 1998 (So pretty much 13 or 14 years of torture )
The rivalry between Bradford and Leeds during those years was bloody great though and I never missed a game between these 2 sides until you got relegated in 2014 from SL,During these golden years we had fantastic crowds which regularly topped 20,000 at both grounds
Fans in both Leeds and Bradford want these games back on despite our rivalries over the years and IMO SL is far worse off without a strong Bradford Bulls in the competition.
I thought that I also hated the Bradford Northern/Bulls during those years, but I have realised since the clubs relegation from SL that it was nothing more than a very strong admiration and respect of such a great club that I had against you guys and that I just wanted to win at all costs every time we played
I'd guess that the majority of Bradford fans would also agree that we didn't actually hate each other but that we were both very good rivals which brought the best out of both clubs
I would love you back in SL and start to hate you again though
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011" I don’t have the hatred for Leeds anymore like I used to.'"
Hatred is a strong word and I guess you've got your reasons for disliking the Leeds Rhinos (As have all Bradford Northern/Bulls fans)
I went to St Blaise and then Cardinal Hinsley GS despite living outside of Bradford and I was also the only Leeds RL supporter in both schools,You can guess the abuse I got whilst at school when Northern beat Leeds
I then worked at a printers in Bradford at a time when Leeds regularly got beat by Northern and then the Bulls,So I pretty much had to eat humble pie for the duration of both my High school education years and then 8 years of employment until I changed jobs in 1998 (So pretty much 13 or 14 years of torture
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The rivalry between Bradford and Leeds during those years was bloody great though and I never missed a game between these 2 sides until you got relegated in 2014 from SL,During these golden years we had fantastic crowds which regularly topped 20,000 at both grounds
Fans in both Leeds and Bradford want these games back on despite our rivalries over the years and IMO SL is far worse off without a strong Bradford Bulls in the competition.
I thought that I also hated the Bradford Northern/Bulls during those years, but I have realised since the clubs relegation from SL that it was nothing more than a very strong admiration and respect of such a great club that I had against you guys and that I just wanted to win at all costs every time we played
I'd guess that the majority of Bradford fans would also agree that we didn't actually hate each other but that we were both very good rivals which brought the best out of both clubs
I would love you back in SL and start to hate you again though
'" Quote ="The Biffs Back"Hatred is a strong word and I guess you've got your reasons for disliking the Leeds Rhinos (As have all Bradford Northern/Bulls fans)
I went to St Blaise and then Cardinal Hinsley GS despite living outside of Bradford and I was also the only Leeds RL supporter in both schools,You can guess the abuse I got whilst at school when Northern beat Leeds
I then worked at a printers in Bradford at a time when Leeds regularly got beat by Northern and then the Bulls,So I pretty much had to eat humble pie for the duration of both my High school education years and then 8 years of employment until I changed jobs in 1998 (So pretty much 13 or 14 years of torture
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The rivalry between Bradford and Leeds during those years was bloody great though and I never missed a game between these 2 sides until you got relegated in 2014 from SL,During these golden years we had fantastic crowds which regularly topped 20,000 at both grounds
Fans in both Leeds and Bradford want these games back on despite our rivalries over the years and IMO SL is far worse off without a strong Bradford Bulls in the competition.
I thought that I also hated the Bradford Northern/Bulls during those years, but I have realised since the clubs relegation from SL that it was nothing more than a very strong admiration and respect of such a great club that I had against you guys and that I just wanted to win at all costs every time we played
I'd guess that the majority of Bradford fans would also agree that we didn't actually hate each other but that we were both very good rivals which brought the best out of both clubs
I would love you back in SL and start to hate you again though
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here here ... ive stood on Brdfords terraces since the 70s but those games in the 90s/00s have always stood out home and away. hate the Rhinos/love them, those were epic games that super league should be embracing
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| I'm afraid the cult of Sir Kev may be the undoing of what has been the most incredibly well run club I can think of.
Firstly the lack of succession planning for the staged retirements of peacock, sinfield, burrow etc was odd. Then to trust Sinfield to oversee the recruitment of coaches despite no record of having any skills in that department was also odd. A great player does not automatically equal a great at anything else.
I was raised in Leeds and started to watch us when we were awful in about 92. Going to school in Leeds was therefore rubbish on a Monday morning. But I don't hate them and never have really. Anyone who loves the game couldn't genuinely think having Leeds outside the top flight would be good.
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| Quote ="Pumpetypump"I'm afraid the cult of Sir Kev may be the undoing of what has been the most incredibly well run club I can think of.
Firstly the lack of succession planning for the staged retirements of peacock, sinfield, burrow etc was odd. Then to trust Sinfield to oversee the recruitment of coaches despite no record of having any skills in that department was also odd. A great player does not automatically equal a great at anything else.
I was raised in Leeds and started to watch us when we were awful in about 92. Going to school in Leeds was therefore rubbish on a Monday morning. But I don't hate them and never have really. Anyone who loves the game couldn't genuinely think having Leeds outside the top flight would be good.'"
I think it would be truely marvellous
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| Well I like to think I take a wider view rather than a parochial one. If anyone can explain to me why having a top flight minus Leeds is actually positive for the sport I'd be interested. If it's just because you grew up with Leeds as our main rivals then meh.
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| The only positive would be the exposure the Championship would get for a year or two. Though I have thought many times that if Toronto failed to gain promotion surely a Championship made up of
Bradford
Leeds
Toronto
London
Toulouse
Halifax
Leigh
York
As a core with the possibility of Newcastle joining, taking perhaps a year or four to get traction, would be better for the sport if it's ever to lose the flat caps and whippets image and become a metropolitan, nationwide sport and so be more palatable to the aspirational types who would rather be seen in Tesco than associate with the "grimy pit and mill game the northerners play....."
Call it the Rugby League Premiership as the Super League seems to have lost the name of the game from their world.
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| With that line up it's not such a big leap of the imagination to be thinking of a Superleague 2. If more city teams fall out of the top flight then you might need to rethink the scale of the 2nd division completely.
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| It'd be ironic if the Championship had a wider geographic footprint than SL yet got a worse TV deal.
As for who comes down I think it will be London. I'd rather it wasn't them. I'd prefer it to be Leeds as it's been a while since I've been to Headingley and I like that away trip.
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| Quote ="Highlander"There’s 2 criteria for me.
1 - which clubs would have to do a bit of “cloth cutting” if relegated, which would give us a better chance of competing with them next year. My assumptions would be London, Wakey and/or HKR. Due to a lack of multi millionaire owners.
2 - Karma (for perceived injustices) or funniest - Everyone except London....'"
Sorry to disappoint you but Neil Hudgel is the owner of one of the largest law firms in the country with offices in London, Leeds Manchester and Hull. He is also involved in several other business ventures and he is certainly not short of a bob or two. Is he a multi millionaire? probably.
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| Quote ="Aldy"Sorry to disappoint you but Neil Hudgel is the owner of one of the largest law firms in the country with offices in London, Leeds Manchester and Hull. He is also involved in several other business ventures and he is certainly not short of a bob or two. Is he a 2@ ? Absoloutly.'"
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| Quote ="Aldy"Sorry to disappoint you but Neil Hudgel is the owner of one of the largest law firms in the country with offices in London, Leeds Manchester and Hull. He is also involved in several other business ventures and he is certainly not short of a bob or two. Is he a multi millionaire? probably.'"
To be fair he's probably based that assessment on the sort of squad that Hull KR assembled the last time they were in the Championship. It was a good squad but it wasn't amazing, and certainly not at the levels of limitless spending that Toronto have been hitting, which is probably what he was alluding to with the 'multi-millionaire' comment.
Hull KR will be fine if they come down because they have a very strong support base and Hudgell as backup if/when needed. A side like Wakefield, with average support and no benefactor of any kind would be in big trouble if they came down.
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| Quote ="Aldy"Sorry to disappoint you but Neil Hudgel is the owner of one of the largest law firms in the country with offices in London, Leeds Manchester and Hull. He is also involved in several other business ventures and he is certainly not short of a bob or two. Is he a multi millionaire? probably.'"
I've no idea if Neil Hudgell is a 'multi millionaire' or not. I suspect that his total value might be - but much of that would be tied up in his various businesses.
I doubt that he has got millions sloshing around like, say, Ken Davy - who made his millions, sold his businesses and can now thrown money down the Huddersfield money pit as a hobby.
Either way, he comes across as an arrogant so-and-so, and I wouldn't be averse to seeing his lot relegated for that reason alone
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| Quote ="paulwalker71"
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It's a shame because I've always had a soft spot for rovers. But there's something slightly sinister about the way Hudgell and Carter conduct themselves around our club.
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| Never got the "hating" bit in a rivalry, much as I sang about my Father's (non-existant) gun along with the rest of them.
Of course, it would be bad for SL if Leeds were relegated. Same as it was when we dropped, though we were more...mmm, a bit complicit in our downfall is, perhaps, the phrase I was struggling for. Not that I'd give ha'porth of credibility to Cummins' idea that the RFL wouldn't allow it - claptrap.
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| Whilst bad for SL those clubs would still have their Sky money to fall back on. If Leeds were relegated it could be salvation for many Ch clubs having the likes of us and Leeds turn up with our support.
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| Quote ="rugbyreddog"Whilst bad for SL those clubs would still have their Sky money to fall back on. If Leeds were relegated it could be salvation for many Ch clubs having the likes of us and Leeds turn up with our support.'"
Much to agree with there, though maybe 'salvation' is overdoing it a bit but it would certainly be a shot in the arm for Championship clubs. Not to mention 'THE' derby. Biggest RL crowd of the day, I reckon on any normal weekend.
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| Quote ="Bulls Boy 2011"I’d like to see Hull KR relegated purely so Ethan Ryan’s contract becomes null and void, hopefully then we might keep him!
I wouldnt like like to see us relegated and dont think we will be. I also hope you keep Ethan Ryan. Hope you can keep your form up and make the playoffs and make a welcome return to super league. Will bring so much more to the the table than toronto. Good Luck
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