Distinctive style too. They always trip up eventually.

mmm..... no trip...just could n`t be d to log out of my sons profile...guess stringing two words together and no links gave the game away.



So with such a distinctive style who is the BSC imposter



?

I haven't heard Terry Monster tonight

Right then my two pennath:

Disappointing again.

The game typified the season for me. A loss without being spectacularly bad.
In the game again, could have won it again, a few bad calls again, some bad decisions by us again, some awful mistakes again.

I think we can safely write the play offs off now.

There seems to be a confidence issue with the players now, quite understandably too.

I do still believe that we have stripped the club to its roots and have started the rebuilding process.

Macca in his interview alluded to the fact we HAVE some exciting players lined up for next year, who they are we'll see in time, but fingers crossed.

I think we'll begin to see a different club in 2010

I hope you're right.

Why.

It's ok saying that, but I'm sure he said something similar last year, then announced the Worrincy & Sheriffe signings.

Judging by that, I'm expecting Jon Grayshon & Neil Budworth to be announced soon.


In all seriousness, I just can't bring myself to believe the stuff being said. We've had so much complete crap come out in statements this year, mainly regarding performances and how great things are just round the corner, that I just can't believe anything now.

However, I can't really comment on Hall & L'Estrange, as I haven't seen nearly enough of any of them to know if they're decent players or not. On one side, they could turn out to be another Henderson or Morrison. On the other, they could be a huge disappointment. They are very much "wait and see" signings for me.

I think the only thing that's really going to make me look forward to next year is if we sign a top quality halfback. Anything else, just isn't enough.

Totally agree.

Macca has said something similar every year and nothing has improved. Why would you expect things to change? He's hardly going to say I've signed some more average players who will in all truth add nothing to the squad but we'll muddle through.
I will be suprised to see us sign anybody more exiting than those already announced. I won't be suprised to see us sign some mediocre players though and be told how much stronger the squad will be for it.

Simple for me tonight really then after reading through these joy filled pages of excitement;



I agree with all that..



...and all that

What was most depressing for me today was the fact that there were not many "bad" performances as such, true there were horrible errors and mistakes but everyone bar maybe Netwon tried to put a decent shift in, no, the depressing part was just how ordinary and generally poor we were as a complete unit and that thats just our level now, poor, I never once today thought we would win.

And Quins were ordinary too, a team with no form, star players out, away and they didn't need to come up with anything special at all to beat us, fair play they di what they needed to do quite well but it was hardly a great achievement by them today but they took the 2 points easily in my view.

Utterly depressing.

That's the bottom line isn't it? Quins were poor yet beat us too easily. It was not us getting beaten by a strong team after a tough struggle. It was us shown up to be a very poor team by a team that have not won in 6 games. We made them look a class above. In fact, to be fair, they probably were.

Yep, it makes the wins against Saints and Leeds look more and more like aberrations, today was all too typical of our true level of ability as a unit it seems. And we're not improving as the weeks go by are we?

Good luck fella and all the best to you and the family, at least thats actually important and positive stuff.

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Bloody depressing, for sure.

Here's my take on it. This team can beat anyone IF they try.

The problem is they never seem to want to try. That's a motivational issue and therefore the blame lies at the feet of the head coach and his staff.

If they can't get the same level of performance out of the team for a game against Celtic that they can get for a game against Saints then they're not doing their jobs

Motivation and confidence is whats lacking. If you look at the players we have, we should certainly not be 12th. It's own to coaching, pure and simple. McNamara does not know how to get the best from his players.

It shows how poor we have become. Few years back know one would "bat" an eyelid if we beat either of these teams, yet this season the results are considered to be upsets.

We should never be in this position, with the squad we have. I put alot down to the poor performances, motivation and effort by the players, but the coach must bring this out of his team. Macca has obviously failed.

I do hope he leaves, although that seems unlikely. If he did leave, i would be un-sure who to bring in, and change us into a winning team again next season. Any ideas?

Well, IIRC this is the first season where we've lost more games than we won since 91-92, the year we almost got relegated. And it looks very much like we'll put on our lowest league placing since then this year also (in fact 8th or below will do it so, yup, that one's in the bag too).

Why has this happened? No one on here really knows. Maybe someone could ask SM why he thought we'd see a different Bradford in the second half of the season, and why that different Bradford does not appear to have materialised.

Unfortunately we WERE spectacularly bad. No structure or organisation in attack, leading to players misreading the set plays and BOTH halves passing to the opposition. To be clear these were not intercepts, they were passes behind an attacking line to a second man who wasn't there and both Deacon and Sykes were guilty. What amused me were people getting upset at the lack of a call for a knock on after opposition players dived on the ball. We gift them possession and then want the referee to give us the ball back and get upset when he doesn't. The calls of forward on almost every pass from Harlequins also show how increasingly desperate we are! Let's be clear we showed little or no creativity, compounded by a lack of go forward and looked like a team of individuals some of whom were trying, some of whom had already given up on the season or know their fortunes lie elsewhere.

Defensively we were hopeless, people coming out of the line, trying to put hits on rather than tackle (Scruton, Morrison and others), messing around and needlessly gifting field position and possession through penalties etc.
It wasn't that we weren't bad, it was that we were awful against poor opposition and that made us look average whilst losing.

A lack of structure in defense and attack, poor discipline, little team coherence and motivation indicate poor coaching. It's not a mystery, it's not unfathomable, it's not a strange phenomenon unseen elsewhere. It's the cumulative result of poor coaching that cannot be hidden, disguised or otherwise wished away by the possibility of some alternative future scenario where the poor coach becomes the skillful harbinger of a great Bradford revival based upon youth, which is only achievable through his stewardship, or because no one else wants the job.

Personally I think the 're-building' will begin when Macca goes, the evidence points to a modest improvement in youth recruitment being used as evidence of some behind the scenes masterplan, when the truth is Macca is out of his depth, Hood isn't brutal enough to move on and the financial implications are bad either way. Meaning we're 'muddling through' meaning losing our walk up attendance, our profile in the City and managing to alienate a good proportion of the core of fans remaining.

Roughly translated - I will conveniently ignore this issue as I have a clear agenda with someone else on the board who does not agree with me.

He is hardly gonna say anything different though is he?

However, this is the man who promised that the bulls would turn it around in the second half of the season so I will take everything the guy says with a large pinch of salt.




Have you heard a whisper that McNamara is about to start clearing his desk?

Again, its pretty hard to argue with any of that. Unfortunately.

Yep u were poor against a team that is struggling for form. Your crowd was also poor in terms of noise. First time I have been to Odsal and heard no vocal support. What has happened to crowd atmosphere? Supporting your team through rough times is important and staying slient does not help the team despite what is going on (or not) on the pitch.

Not at all. I stand by what I (and I see some others) said. You give the impression of rushing to get on here to peddle your unhealthy obsessive agenda with seeming great authority whenever we lose (even though, unlike nearly everyone else who posts, you have not even seen the match). Yet, on those all-too-rare occasions we win, you have little if anything of value to say.

Whilst I have no intention of wasting my time proving my point with statistics - although I have no doubt whatsoever I could with ease if I had to - it is worth noting just by way of example that you posted a mere three times on the main post-Celtic thread. One of those posts was a flippant OT post about the coach travel, and the other two were (your usual) heavily-sarcastic posts which offered little by way of satisfaction that we had actually won something. That's all.

From a very quick look, you have posted at least eight attacks on the coach already since yesterday evening, in one of which you told another poster to "shut up", and a similar number of times in response to other people taking issue with your posts where you primarily attacked or derided the poster not the issue.

QED.

Red (with whom I exchange opinions and seek opinion etc quite regularly out of the public eye, and whose views I respect even though we often do not agree) raised a fair, if unconnected, point. And I responded to it.

For the avoidance of doubt: my issue is not that you blame Macca for pretty well everything, and I disagree with you. Plenty of others, I suggest probably far more qualified to comment than either you or I, are playing hell about the coaching. My issue is with your destructive sarcastic and relentless campaign, whilst failing to offer practicable constructive solutions or to listen to those who try to point out the limitations in what the club can do.