We're going to have to play extremely well for he rest of the season to have a chance of even scraping the play-offs now. We are 5 points off the play-off zone already. I can't say it's looking good for us.

My faith is wavering now a little I have to say.
I can't see us making it now. Today was a must win, not a must throw away.

The play offs have gone now today was the nail in the coffin.

Gone.

We'll be lucky to finish above 12th.

I don't think the play offs are gone at all, mathematically we can still be in there. We never needed to win all of our remaining matches but it's a game we should have won.

However the way we're playing I cannot see us making the 8. But it is wrong to say they have now gone.

I always thought we would win today and even win well.

Losing to Leeds and Saints was expected, today was a must win.

I was never really worried about playoffs, but today is the first time i've thought we ain't going to make them.

Never mind the matematics mate, the season is over.

We need to win 7 from 9 now and that's not going to happen so the play offs have gone.

Well whilst I may not think they can make the 8, it isn't over until it's over.

What a shambles the Bulls are now,it's not too long ago that they were a team to be feared,sadly for them not anymore!
with crowds at an all time low,will they be able to survive?

I actually think now it's time to try and take something else out of this season.

Realistically, we are not going to make the playoffs.

So let's give that up as a bad job until next year and look to give some of the supposedly promising youngsters some decent game time. So what if we lose? If it means these players are better for it, then it's worth it.

I'm not saying put a full academy side out, but get some of the supposedly best ones in the team.

I for one would be more inclined to want to watch a game that was giving players like Donaldson a really good run out and Menzies at right centre, than any game that involves the revolving door of wonder currently playing 3.

There's a special thread for trolling. Kindly use it.

Like i said earlier in the season mate when you beat us at your place you kept the faith and have done so all year and good on yer for doing so,do i detect reality setting in now fella????

So do really think that we can win 7 of 9. Which is form we haven't shown since early 2006.

I thought that this was a thread about where posters thought that the Bulls would finish in SL,i apologise for appearing to be a troll,but surely that is down to your inept side and not me?

To be fair, it does appear to be what is already happening. I do wonder if Cook is on his way at the end of the year because Macca seems to be favouring giving some of the young guys a run out. I expect we'll see plenty of them next year. It is a huge shame that Crookes got injured, because we'd have a better idea by now if he could be a first teamer for us.

I wouldn't call 4 minutes a run out.

Erm have I not already stated my view?

I just disagreed with the comment that the play offs were now gone. They aren't 'gone' we've just made our task a lot tougher, perhaps too tough but time will tell.

Save yourself the despair mate. It's over.
Bulls are a shadow of our former selves and nothing will change until the coaching staff at this club are removed and brought in their place a team of coaches that know how to motivate, instill discipline and mental toughness in their players.

I completely agree on Cook and have said the same. The fact he's being left out does suggest he might be leaving.

Although he's putting the youngsters in a little, 4 minutes at the end of the game isn't going to help anyone. Don't get me wrong, I understand why he didn't want to throw on a debut 17 year old when the game was so close today. However there are clear underperformers in that team that need to be shown they're not auto choices.

Use what's left of this season to hammer that in to those players and give the kids a chance. If one of them performs well, we have essentially a new player.

As well as Donaldson, Olbison, Whitehead, I'd like to see them try out Keiran Hyde at 6 with Jeffries at 7. Even if it's only for one or two games just to give him some experience and let Deacon know that his performances are not good enough to stay in the team.


Oh and before someone says "Hyde isn't good enough" or something to that effect, can he really be any worse than how players like Deacon and Sykes have been "performing"?

So would you prefer to see him thrown into the action against much bigger opposition whilst we're chasing the game? Whitehead got a much longer run out at Wire after his short debut and I'm sure Donaldson will get some more game time. But I've had this debate before..

Donaldson could have come on at stand off in place of Deacon who was doing nothing again.

It would have been interesting to see what minutes he would have got if we hadn't thrown away our lead at the start of the 2nd half. The coach has to strike a balance between making sure we get the result and giving the guy his chance. In both games where Whitehead and Donaldson made their debut the result was still in the balance. I'd like to have seen him on longer but I think the coach has to make a call on whether it is the right time during the game.

Ive seen this in the bulls and been called a troll for it when I've mentioned it and I can understand some of your reactions when it comes from a Leeds fan!! The term I used was "garbage" which would put a few noses out of joint and again it's my bad and can see why it didn't go down well!! When I see the bulls or listen to them on the radio!! I see a team that has massive issues all over the park and off it!! This is as weaker bulls team as I've ever seen.

Yes it didn't do Cas any harm with 18 year old Richard Owen in the side along with with 17 year old Jordan Thompson.