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| Quote ="MicktheGled"If you read my previous post about Sandy a few days ago you'll know that she's the wife of his brother.
We worked together for over a decade in the NHS and as I said in the previous post she has been a regular at Bradford Northern and Bradford Bulls fixtures since the early 80s.'"
Thanks for clearing up. No I didn't read the posts. There's that much on here it's difficult to keep up.
Your post sounds supportive of her appointment, though. Is that the case? What about the other fella?
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"It might have been a chaotic week but the leader of the consortium should be able to deliver a consistent message! Some of the statements in those interviews are so far apart they're nearly meeting on the way back......'"
I don't Quote ="DrFeelgood"Quote ="MicktheGled"If you read my previous post about Sandy a few days ago you'll know that she's the wife of his brother.
We worked together for over a decade in the NHS and as I said in the previous post she has been a regular at Bradford Northern and Bradford Bulls fixtures since the early 80s.'"
Thanks for clearing up. No I didn't read the posts. There's that much on here it's difficult to keep up.
Your post sounds supportive of her appointment, though. Is that the case? What about the other fella?'"
I can support her based on my ten years plus working relationship with her and she is what I would say full of honesty and transparency.
I have no information on the other newly appointed director but I've set the spade off digging.
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Quote ="DrFeelgood"Is Sandra Wood related to Nigel Wood?
Looking at that article it seems like the consensus that the RFL has acted inappropriately for several years has rattled Mark Sawyer's cage. He's come out punching with the "looking forward not back" argument, which is nice to hear, but neglects the fact that Bulls and their supporters have suffered for years in part due to a series of catastrophic decisions taken by the governing body. I don't think it is unreasonable for Bulls fans to be demanding answers. So sorry Sawyer but I'm not with you on that one chum.'"
This may well be old news by now, but Sandra Wood is we understand either Nigel's sister, or Sister-in-law, and Mark Kilgallon is purported to be Mark Sawyer's cousin. But frankly who cares?
More importantly it is becoming reasonably clear that Mark Sawyer is an extremely weak front man and that his statements and/or press interviews are become increasingly chaotic, contradictory and littered with falsehoods and/or evasiveness.
We don't even need to add the customary eggy 'alleged' to the above assertion because our words are to all intents and purposes public knowledge and/or open public comment by some member(s) of the journalism community.
Notwithstanding the above, and for the avoidance of doubt 'we' as always truly do wish the Wood/Sawyer consortium along with their emerging so called voluntary 'Board' the very best of luck.
As for who currently owns the club's shares, well the jury is still out on that. At this time the official record is surely all that counts, and therefore for Bradford Bulls 2017 Limited as per the Companies House website the current cited shareholding is that Chalmers still owns 87.5% of the shares, and what we understand to be a close affiliate of AC's, Danielle Christoffersen, appears to have 12.5% of the shares c/o her interest in Orcas Rugby League (NZ) and her further affiliations c/o FourFourOne Investments Limited (NZ) - details below:
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/com ... es/1388503
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/com ... reholdings
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Quote ="DrFeelgood"Is Sandra Wood related to Nigel Wood?
Looking at that article it seems like the consensus that the RFL has acted inappropriately for several years has rattled Mark Sawyer's cage. He's come out punching with the "looking forward not back" argument, which is nice to hear, but neglects the fact that Bulls and their supporters have suffered for years in part due to a series of catastrophic decisions taken by the governing body. I don't think it is unreasonable for Bulls fans to be demanding answers. So sorry Sawyer but I'm not with you on that one chum.'"
This may well be old news by now, but Sandra Wood is we understand either Nigel's sister, or Sister-in-law, and Mark Kilgallon is purported to be Mark Sawyer's cousin. But frankly who cares?
More importantly it is becoming reasonably clear that Mark Sawyer is an extremely weak front man and that his statements and/or press interviews are become increasingly chaotic, contradictory and littered with falsehoods and/or evasiveness.
We don't even need to add the customary eggy 'alleged' to the above assertion because our words are to all intents and purposes public knowledge and/or open public comment by some member(s) of the journalism community.
Notwithstanding the above, and for the avoidance of doubt 'we' as always truly do wish the Wood/Sawyer consortium along with their emerging so called voluntary 'Board' the very best of luck.
As for who currently owns the club's shares, well the jury is still out on that. At this time the official record is surely all that counts, and therefore for Bradford Bulls 2017 Limited as per the Companies House website the current cited shareholding is that Chalmers still owns 87.5% of the shares, and what we understand to be a close affiliate of AC's, Danielle Christoffersen, appears to have 12.5% of the shares c/o her interest in Orcas Rugby League (NZ) and her further affiliations c/o FourFourOne Investments Limited (NZ) - details below:
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/com ... es/1388503
https://app.companiesoffice.govt.nz/com ... reholdings
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| Have the Bulls always charged a booking fee for season ticket orders or has it been introduced by the new regime?
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| Quote ="Keiththered"Have the Bulls always charged a booking fee for season ticket orders or has it been introduced by the new regime?'"
Its not a new thing, was same for individual match tickets last season.
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| I think the booking fee applies only to on-line sales, at least it did under the old management. That said, I'm far from sure if an actual, physical office currently exists or is still 'being looked at'.
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| Quote ="Mr Dog"So, if Kear's claims on player spend from a couple of months ago were true you'll have a bigger budget for 2020 than you did in 2019.......
Although, TBF, £300k sounds a lot for Dewsbury and they've already announced the budget for 2020 will be lower than in 2019 even with the extra income from the Bulls deal (not sure how the same person trying to increase income whilst at the same time actively trying to remove an income stream isn't a conflict of interest
). For comparison Fev's 2019 playing budget was considerably less than £600k.'"
Just catching up on it all it doesn’t have to be a high budget when you have half of Leeds playing for you week 8n week out. To$$er
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| Quote ="DrFeelgood"Thanks for clearing up. No I didn't read the posts. There's that much on here it's difficult to keep up.
Your post sounds supportive of her appointment, though. Is that the case? What about the other fella?'"
Difficult to keep up - that's a true statement.
Mick say's Sandra is married to Nigel's brother.
The troll say's she is Nigel's sister.
Mick, Can you please clarify who she is or is there inbreeding going on in the Wood family.
On the RFL statement section - page 2 the troll says they are going to Iceland and then says here on page 102 it is cold in Greenland. Maybe he is on tour - a fantasy tour.
Constant lies are difficult to keep track of for trolls if they tell that many.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"If you read my previous post about Sandy a few days ago you'll know that she's the wife of his brother.
We worked together for over a decade in the NHS and as I said in the previous post she has been a regular at Bradford Northern and Bradford Bulls fixtures since the early 80s.'"
Was she a porter, too?
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| Sandra is Nigel’s sister in law
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| Quote ="nestegg"You are entitled to your opinion Danny boy, even if it is wrong.
We do admit, however, that it is an unusual approach, but you do not see the ever growing plethora of supportive PM's we receive do you?'"
It’s not unusual though is it. Your mate belcki was the same last time
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| Quote ="nestegg"Re 2) above you are 100% correct.
Re 1) above, the truth and the facts are due to come out in a national newspaper exclusive, most likely by on or before Xmas.'"
I’d be amazed if the truth and facts came out in a national newspaper exclusive because they can’t be bothered to report properly on the Rugby League Grand or Challenge Cup Finals.
No one important cares about Rugby League because the sport is administered so terribly.
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| Quote ="feebleweasel"I’d be amazed if the truth and facts came out in a national newspaper exclusive because they can’t be bothered to report properly on the Rugby League Grand or Challenge Cup Finals.
No one important cares about Rugby League because the sport is administered so terribly.'"
As much as I massively agree and don’t think it will happen either, I actually think that any chance to properly put the boot into the sport in the national media they would do in a heartbeat.
As you say and I agree with they won’t give a monkeys either way
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| Quote ="woolly07"Quote ="DrFeelgood"Thanks for clearing up. No I didn't read the posts. There's that much on here it's difficult to keep up.
Your post sounds supportive of her appointment, though. Is that the case? What about the other fella?'"
Difficult to keep up - that's a true statement.
Mick say's Sandra is married to Nigel's brother.
The troll say's she is Nigel's sister.
Mick, Can you please clarify who she is or is there inbreeding going on in the Wood family.
On the RFL statement section - page 2 the troll says they are going to Iceland and then says here on page 102 it is cold in Greenland. Maybe he is on tour - a fantasy tour.
Constant lies are difficult to keep track of for trolls if they tell that many.'"
As I said in the first post about her coming on board last week, she is married to Nigel's brother so she is his sister in law.
I'm meeting her tomorrow to get an interview out on the Pulse. I can't stress enough how this is a positive appointment.
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| Quote ="Stul"Was she a porter?'"
No, she was the clinical lead for the radiology department.
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| Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.'"
Can’t remember where or why I heard Nicholas might be involved. It’s no coincidence for me it is chairmen of clubs who backed chalmers outbursts have found their way into the club. It seems it was all planned from the start for the alleged landfill so all shareholders earn their corn. Tw@s
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.'"
The question is do you believe them or do you still believe Ross, now it's proven to be a piece of pure fantasy.
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| Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.'"
The question is do you believe them or do you still believe Ross, now it's proven to be a piece of pure fantasy.
Quote ="thepimp007"Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.'"
Can’t remember where or why I heard Nicholas might be involved. It’s no coincidence for me it is chairmen of clubs who backed chalmers outbursts have found their way into the club. It seems it was all planned from the start for the alleged landfill so all shareholders earn their corn. Tw@s'"
Mark Sawyer said in his interview that Kevin is a partner and is working behind the scenes with the club.
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| Quote ="MicktheGled"The question is do you believe them or do you still believe Ross, now it's proven to be a piece of pure fantasy.
Mark Sawyer said in his interview that Kevin is a partner and is working behind the scenes with the club.'"
Good to see there are some serious backers investing in the club.
Surely our future is secured!
On a more realistic note the only real investors are the fans and I’m not sure they will keep investing.
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| Quote ="HAPEtobehere"https://www.totalrl.com/league-express-premium-rfl-to-spend-six-figure-fee-on-maintaining-odsal-after-bradford-departure/
The rfl will maintain the lease of odsal at a cost of 200k at the expense of the league. More bad blood towards the bulls but surely this could prompt the other clubs into wanting answers too'"
I read that article and I can't believe it's anything other than scaremongering from the RFL. The reasons for it are of course debateable but I'm sure we all have our own theories.
Quote ="thepimp007"Can’t remember where or why I heard Nicholas might be involved.'"
It's definitely been mentioned in recent interviews that Nicholas was involved in some way. This just seems to confirm that he's involved in a minor shareholder capacity. I'm more interested in the idea that Chalmers still has a stake, and therefore a voice.
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Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.'"
And yet Kevin Nicholas denied being involved just a few days ago
https://www.thepressnews.co.uk/sportsne ... d-takeover
Yet again, lack of clarity and contradictory information. It’s no wonder that some of us have lost all trust in the club
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Quote ="DILLIGAF"Bower & Shaw in LE reporting that Kevin Nicholas (Batley Chairman) and Andrew Chalmers both have shares of under 10% in the new structure.'"
And yet Kevin Nicholas denied being involved just a few days ago
https://www.thepressnews.co.uk/sportsne ... d-takeover
Yet again, lack of clarity and contradictory information. It’s no wonder that some of us have lost all trust in the club
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| Quote ="Bulliac"I think the booking fee applies only to on-line sales, at least it did under the old management. That said, I'm far from sure if an actual, physical office currently exists or is still 'being looked at'.'" My Bulls lottery numbers need to be paid. Does anyone know if Jane and her team are still in the shop at Odsal so I can go and pay.
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| Quote ="HAPEtobehere"https://www.totalrl.com/league-express-premium-rfl-to-spend-six-figure-fee-on-maintaining-odsal-after-bradford-departure/
The rfl will maintain the lease of odsal at a cost of 200k at the expense of the league. More bad blood towards the bulls but surely this could prompt the other clubs into wanting answers too'"
Says this includes lost rent (approx £70k) so when you factor in rates of £50k I think was the figure bandied about, security for site and other costs.
The RFL won’t actually be doing anything to the ground just doing the bare minimum as specified by lease so the council have no reason to revoke it
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