.... and the players apparently deluding themselves that the coach is fine, the gameplan is fine, and if they could just stick to it they'd rule the world

The silence is deafening from the club here. It is odd that there are people from within the club who are very vocal about the fans but seem to be completely silent on the actual issues that the fans are voicing their displeasure over?

If compo is an issue then it has to be realised that, sooner or later, it will cost more to KEEP an underperforming coach that it would be to sack him. People will simply stop coming and the declining gate receipts will soon be more than any compo pay out.

Time to act Mr Green. Get rid of Lowes and his arrogant mouthpiece Ferres before it is too late. Even your clubs' most ardent followers have clearly had enough and without them, there IS no club whatsoever.

Said the same last week.

We hear plenty about how disappointed they are and no one takes a defeat harder than them.....

However I don't recall one pro Jimmy story or even comment from a player thus far....

The tacktick of standing still in a line worked when we had Jimmy, the awesome foursome and the rest of that great team but it doesn't work with our present team. This group need coaching how to defend. We had Harrison and he was frozen out and left. We now have Chev as assistant. Disko is there but he has his own job. We desperately need an experienced coaching team not three novices.

I don't think you can really call Lowes a novice, he's had a few years of coaching experience by now. Maybe his problem is that he's not had much experience working under a top coach? He did a bit under Harrison at Salford and then went to Wire, where he wasn't exactly very successful so they brought in [iirc Smithy over his head, the only 'name' coach he's worked with, but he left at the end of that season.

Like a few top name players he got coaching jobs very early and maybe too easily, but many 'great' players fail to make it as a coach - different job with different skill-set requirements. The best coaches get the very best from what they have to work with, but sadly Lowesy isn't even getting adequate performances from our squad.

Lowes' first coaching job was 12 years ago.

edit: for McDermott it was 10. Anderson, 8.

Didn't he work with McDermott at Leeds before moving across to the Union side? Pretty sure they won a title while he was there - maybe the 2012 one?

Yeah, he did. Don't recall the year but he was his assistant for a while.

now.. Looking like there are no excuses!

Indeed, easy to remember Leeds did take a punt on him. It's another of those "What if..." moments that just before he got the Leeds job, he was turned down for the Bulls job!

(Of course, he couldn't really have done anything with us - IIRC he would have been the coach during the first administration, but still an interesting nugget)

I think that appeared far worse than was the actual case.Yes,the ball was flung quite swiftly to the floor but I think it was due to the frustration felt by Mark Mexico that it was deemed a knock-on.He himself sustained a head injury requiring a bandage,so he may not have had his bearings correct and the ball nearly struck your player,but I don't feel Mark Mexico meant it to happen like that.It would have been accidental.

Carry on...

Whilst fully accepting your point that Mexico may well have not been fully in control, I take issue with your report that the ball "nearly" hit our player - I wouldn't like you to be my witness if I got assaulted. I hit him fully amidships......did you mean to say it "neatly", hit our player? Not that he knew much about it!

You can tell by the reaction of the players that there was nothing in it.

A Bulls player goes across and pats Mexico on the back. Nobody else does anything.

Very dirty team Sheffield, knees elbows spears lifting and more at every opportunity and have been the same for years

Just for the record this won't become a Leigh vs Sheffield thread.

And quite right, too.

Please accept my apologies just casting for light nibble