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| Quote ="redeverready"Player of his stature how much do you honestly value him at.'"
Me? Or the club? I'm not sure if you've noticed but there isn't exactly a large selection of young, british scrum halves kicking around at the minute. I know you particularly don't rate the guy, I don't think he's that bad.
It's also not that long ago that he signed a new deal, I would expect him to be on a pretty decent salary.
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| Didn't club say at forum that they'd told players they would be allowed to leave if they could find another club to get them off salary bill. Don't think it was clear whether we would demand a transfer fee.
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| Not sure we are in a position to demand a fee unless there starts being a bidding war or interest from several clubs. Even if there is surely the club will offer the fee to the player in an increase to his contract.
Would be v surprised if we can get a fee in our situation
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"Not sure we are in a position to demand a fee unless there starts being a bidding war or interest from several clubs. Even if there is surely the club will offer the fee to the player in an increase to his contract.
Would be v surprised if we can get a fee in our situation'"
That was how I understood it. Only financial benefit we get is reduction in wage bill.
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| TBH, the "You can leave if you want" statement by the club seems to be a bit of empty gesture as by this point pretty much every club will have filled their squads so it's only unlikely circumstances that would free up space elsewhere for players to be able to move.
Case in point, Gale to Hull. Hull have said they were interested, at the time Bradford didn't want to sell, Hull got a different player and now don't have salary cap space to take Gale even if they still wanted him.
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| Diskin to retain captaincy as I told you all months ago... well, I said it wasn't Heath (that's how it works round here isn't it?!)
As for the locked thread, did roof and eddie get confused by the term "sledging"?
Fnar, fnar, fnar.
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| Quote ="hindle xiii"Diskin to retain captaincy as I told you all months ago... well, I said it wasn't Heath (that's how it works round here isn't it?!)
As for the locked thread, did roof and eddie get confused by the term "sledging"?
Fnar, fnar, fnar.'"
Well it certainly went downhill pretty quickly, even allowing for the low starting point.............anyone know where I left my coat?
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| Quote ="redeverready"Player of his stature how much do you honestly value him at.'"
Saints paid £50k for Kyle Amor, so on that basic, Luke Gale is probably worth no more than £25k in transfer fee. It does however depend on what his salary is to work out what the value to the Bulls is in letting him go.
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| Quote ="EHW"Saints paid £50k for Kyle Amor, so on that basic, Luke Gale is probably worth no more than £25k in transfer fee. '"
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Kyle Amor is twice the player Luke Gale is?
Don't be so silly.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"?
Kyle Amor is twice the player Luke Gale is?
Don't be so silly.'"
I know, more like four.
For heavens sake if you can't see what a top class act Amor is you really are as daft as you appear. If it were not for the appearance of the Burgess brothers I'd tip him for England by the end of next season.
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| Quote ="vastman"I know, more like four.
For heavens sake if you can't see what a top class act Amor is you really are as daft as you appear. If it were not for the appearance of the Burgess brothers I'd tip him for England by the end of next season.'"
Not being bias here as a Wakefield Trinity fan (even though he has moved over the Pennines) but he is a top quality prop-forward.
His footwork is quality and if supported he can offload the ball too. He does all the little things correctly and rarely makes a handling error. You will see how good he is next season when he is playing with a quality team. If it was up to me this year he would of been playing for England over Mossop who IMO was ineffective.
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| Comparing apples and oranges really. Hard to compare a prop to a halfback. That being said, as far as their quality in their chosen position, I would say Amor is easily the better player. I wouldn't want to see him at 7 any more than I'd want to see Gale at prop though.
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| As we have yet to announce the signing of Mexico, it got me wondering.
Press in Aus seem confident the deal is done, so why haven't the Bulls announced anything?
I wouldn't be surprised if this news was to counter the blow of losing a player, for example, I'm hearing rumours that Carvell will soon depart. Maybe this signing will attempt to soften that blow.
If Carvell does go, and we don't re-loan Evans, it's going to be an even tougher year this year for the forwards.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"As we have yet to announce the signing of Mexico, it got me wondering.
Press in Aus seem confident the deal is done, so why haven't the Bulls announced anything?
I wouldn't be surprised if this news was to counter the blow of losing a player, for example, I'm hearing rumours that Carvell will soon depart. Maybe this signing will attempt to soften that blow.
If Carvell does go, and we don't re-loan Evans, it's going to be an even tougher year this year for the forwards.'"
If the deal is done, that'll be exactly it. Imagine the uproar if they kept talking about redundancies and that players will have to leave, then come out and say "we've signed another player!". Any signings now will fall into that "If someone leaves, we'll replace them with another player on a lower wage" category, which presumably Mexico is, if it's true.
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"?
Kyle Amor is twice the player Luke Gale is?
Don't be so silly.'"
Plenty of Leeds fans are gutted at losing Amor, not so many with Gale.
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| Quote ="tigertot"Plenty of Leeds fans are gutted at losing Amor'"
If our options were Amor or Kirke, I think I'd be gutted at losing Amor too.
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| Quote ="daveyz999"As we have yet to announce the signing of Mexico, it got me wondering.
Press in Aus seem confident the deal is done, so why haven't the Bulls announced anything?
I wouldn't be surprised if this news was to counter the blow of losing a player, for example, I'm hearing rumours that Carvell will soon depart. Maybe this signing will attempt to soften that blow.
If Carvell does go, and we don't re-loan Evans, it's going to be an even tougher year this year for the forwards.'"
'Attempt' being the correct word. It won't soften the blow very much.
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| Quote ="BullCharge"'Attempt' being the correct word. It won't soften the blow very much.'"
Correct it won't. But I'm sure most fans appreciate that it's maybe what needs to happen to ensure the financial stability of the club. And if that's the reasoning, I'm sure the sensible ones will accept the playing squad becoming a bit less talented, in order to get to that place.
As much as we'd all love to see Carvell in a Bulls shirt rather than Mexico (with no disrespect to the latter), we also know that the reasoning for such a replacement would be a sound one. And any replacement is better than none at all I'm sure. (Unless we bring in another Worrincy/Sheriffe/Tupou).
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| Worrincy was one of a kind.
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| Quote ="BullCharge"Worrincy was one of a kind.'"
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| Quote ="vastman"I know, more like four.
For heavens sake if you can't see what a top class act Amor is you really are as daft as you appear. If it were not for the appearance of the Burgess brothers I'd tip him for England by the end of next season.'"
Being called daft by Vastman? That is a bit like being called queer by Elton John.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"Correct it won't. But I'm sure most fans appreciate that it's maybe what needs to happen to ensure the financial stability of the club. And if that's the reasoning, I'm sure the sensible ones will accept the playing squad becoming a bit less talented, in order to get to that place.
As much as we'd all love to see Carvell in a Bulls shirt rather than Mexico (with no disrespect to the latter), we also know that the reasoning for such a replacement would be a sound one. And any replacement is better than none at all I'm sure. (Unless we bring in another Worrincy/Sheriffe/Tupou).'"
I have to say, from the outside looking in, you have a pretty good team right now. One or two changes won't make you relegation certainties.
Just depends how quickly the change can be managed but a couple of players swapped for younger players might work out for you.
Unfortuantely I understand it isn't as easy as that and there is a lot of uncertainty but keep hanging in there guys. It's the fans that will make it work in the end.
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| Quote ="HamsterChops"
If our options were Amor or Kirke, I think I'd be gutted at losing Amor too.'"
Multi grand final winner under 3 different coaches , Kirke by plenty .
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| Carvell pictured on twitter today in the coral stand modelling the new heritage shirt.Would seem a strange choice of model if he were to be leaving soon
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| Got my ticket off Carvell. Seemed happy enough.
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