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| I can only hope those that were wronged get some compensation and we get some transparency about what was going on.
I note the present company is one of those having actions brought against it...
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| Official statement. Lets hope the spelling is right on this one:
[urlhttp://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/article/49574/official-club-statement[/url
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| Not 100% sure from a legal point of view, what the new company will have to answer to. They themselves in effect had no contracts with any of the staff.
I hope the main culprit in all this Marc Green gets his comeuppance. Ruined the Christmas of man fans and players & staff and the effect on many of the players lives was huge. Imagine any of us not getting this months payment.
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| This 3rd administration & eventual liquidation did seem different from the previous 2. I suppose a good lawyer can usually find an angle of attack if something doesn't quite follow the standard procedure. But ultimately it's down to the RFL & Mark Green to carry the can for this one imho.
Speaking of MG, has there been any update re his own legal issues? Safeguard Security went bust first and supposedly the administrators were finding problems there.
Then the Bulls went bust and again the administrator wasn't happy.
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| Was Green's Bulls company actually liquidated? There was some debate at the time and the administrator wasn't happy with this either.
Cha-Lo seemed to be set up before liquidation occurred.
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| I guess that's down to the administrator? He announced the liquidation long before New-Co but IIRC he was still trying to sell after it happened with claims and counter claims?
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| Quote ="Bullseye"Was Green's Bulls company actually liquidated? There was some debate at the time and the administrator wasn't happy with this either.
Cha-Lo seemed to be set up before liquidation occurred.'"
I don't recall the precise dates but liquidation was announced at least a fortnight before it actually happened.
I am personally reconciled to never going again so if this is the end, so be it. Oddly, the Rugby League town I know the most people in outside of Bradford is actually Toronto. I may yet upsticks and feck off. (after St Helens that is, but bugger that)
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| I remember it being announced then subsequently seeing it hadn't formally happened.
Cha Lo seemed to be the only show in town as far as the RFL was concerned which didn't go down well with the administrator who alleged they'd made unauthorised actions.
All smelt a bit funny at the time.
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| I wonder if Chisholm is one of the claimants...
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| All staff were made redundant before Chalow took over this were then employed by the new company who were under no obligation to reemploy them on same terms. They were not TUPED across which would have protected there terms and conditions.
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| Well according to the article someone's pursuing the newco for something. However I'd have thought it would be Green and the RFL with most to worry about.
Has Green been declared insolvent yet? I did wonder if that was on the cards given everything that happened. If so the claimants will get naff all.
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| There can't be any trouble ahead for us, the old company was liquidated this is the biggest part of the problems we are facing now trying to get a totally new company in place..
Don't tell the Fax, Hudds or Wakefield followers though it will spoil their gloating.
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| Quote ="Bullseye"https://companycheck.co.uk/director/905368524/MR-MARC-NEVILLE-GREEN/summary'"
And from that, going into Bradford Bulls Northern Limited, it shows the company status as "In Liquidation"
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| I cant see there being any issue as a new company but credit where credit is due, The club released a coherent statement about the issue before I personally had even heard about it
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| it has the smell of their legal advisers providing the statement, having heard how good the usual PR is.
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| Well the pantomime continues with a new co that emerged from the mess of late last year, with no assets or liabilities as it was established, is being sued. It could only happen in Bradford!!!
Of course it can't happen, people could sue individuals involved, or the RFL, or perhaps the administrator, but by law the new co is safe, unless there is some dark deep secret being kept by Cha/Lo and the RFL.
Given the recent form and lack of communication it at least gives us something else to ponder.
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"Well the pantomime continues with a new co that emerged from the mess of late last year, with no assets or liabilities as it was established, is being sued. It could only happen in Bradford!!!
Of course it can't happen, people could sue individuals involved, or the RFL, or perhaps the administrator, but by law the new co is safe, unless there is some dark deep secret being kept by Cha/Lo and the RFL.
Given the recent form and lack of communication it at least gives us something else to ponder.'"
Nah, according to some on twitter, some claiming to be some sort of media guys/students, they think because we play in the same kit, colours, logo that we're accountable. Frightening how people get so confused between COMPANIES and CLUBS.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"Nah, according to some on twitter, some claiming to be some sort of media guys/students, they think because we play in the same kit, colours, logo that we're accountable. Frightening how people get so confused between COMPANIES and CLUBS.'"
The article in the guardian mentions that some of the individuals making the claims are being represented by the same solicitor that is dealing with the Cas/Denny Solomona case.
Those muppets on twitter might not realise the difference but I'm pretty sure that solicitor knows what's up.
The only thing I can think of that might drag the newco into this is whether there was any tupe stuff going on between the two companies. We all thought BBN Ltd was liquidated but that doesn't appear to be the case, so who knows.
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| BBN is liquidated, so unless there is an issue on timing TUPE can't apply.
Given the RFL gave a 2 week deadline to submit bids to form a new company to run a team in Bradford, I'd have expected legal claims to happen in that period for any TUPE claims.
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| Quote ="Mirfieldbull"BBN is liquidated, so unless there is an issue on timing TUPE can't apply.
Given the RFL gave a 2 week deadline to submit bids to form a new company to run a team in Bradford, I'd have expected legal claims to happen in that period for any TUPE claims.'"
It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated.
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| Quote ="Nothus"It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated.'"
How CAN they still be being liquidated? They can't have anything to BE liquidated!
[urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KP7otdYJw[/url
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| Quote ="Fr13daY"How CAN they still be being liquidated? They can't have anything to BE liquidated!
[urlhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82KP7otdYJw[/url'"
One reason could be that HMRC are dragging their heels or objecting to the company being wound up. Weren't they supposed to be going after Marc Green personally? They might want to keep the company alive while they do so.
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| Quote ="Nothus"It isn't liquidated yet, that's the point. Go and check on companies house, the company is still in the process of being liquidated.'"
Ok so the process isn't complete, but the administrator and the RFL were clear that it was in administration (or would be at some time in the future), so the new co took on the RFL license in good faith, having been approved by the RFL. If there is a basis of a claim, I can't see any way it can stick on new co, the RFOr administrator are potential targets
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