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| ... you decide!!!
I'm sure the board will listen to the fans that pay everyones wages... not!!!
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| He has to go and he has to go now. No more chances or excuses. He is awful
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| I'm at the stage where I wouldn't be against seeing a change in the coaching team as things currently stand. But I'd rather the club waited until a credible and experienced option became available. I'm not in favour of sacking the coach and paying out compensation and then being left to pick between a few coaches such as Millward/Harrison who didn't exactly cover themselves in glory at their last clubs.
I personally feel we should begin thinking long and hard about possible options for 2010. Ok it's a gamble because fans will become disheartened if results continue to be poor. But there is no short term miracle answer and we lack an assistant capable of undertaking a caretaker role until the end of the year.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'm at the stage where I wouldn't be against seeing a change in the coaching team as things currently stand. But I'd rather the club waited until a credible and experienced option became available. I'm not in favour of sacking the coach and paying out compensation and then being left to pick between a few coaches such as Millward/Harrison who didn't exactly cover themselves in glory at their last clubs.
I personally feel we should begin thinking long and hard about possible options for 2010. Ok it's a gamble because fans will become disheartened if results continue to be poor. But there is no short term miracle answer and we lack an assistant capable of undertaking a caretaker role until the end of the year.'"
Sense at last!
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland":jwkc21dg
Sack him now, :jwkc21dghe's destroyed a sucessful team:jwkc21dg and it should not be tolerated!
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| macnamara has destroyed a club that i have followed all my life i have tried to keep my opinions on the terraces. but now i cant do with seeing that man destroy it all because it seems he has completely lost the dressing room the players are not interested sometimes today it was quite embarrasing i thought comic relief was on friday not today...
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| Quote ="vitch"Did McNamara sign Harris and sell/get rid of Peacock and Fielden?
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Whilst I would agree that Nobby signing Harris wasn't the best move, Fielden did leave in Maccas reign. It has to be questioned, why let the following players go if you annot replace them with better players?
Players Out
Michael Withers
Marcus Bai
Ben Harris
Shontayne Hape
Lesley Vainakolo
Iestyn Harris
Joe Vagana
Ian Henderson
Brad Meyers
Chris McKenna
Paul Johnson
Stanley Gene
Brett Ferres
Ryan Atkins
Dave Halley (on loan)
Stuart Fielden
Players in
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Glenn Morrison- Probably best signing
Chris Feather
James Evans
Michael Platt
Tame Tupou
David Solomono
Simon Finnigan
Wayne Godwin
Chris Nero
Ben Jefferies
Paul Sykes
Rikki Sheriffe
Steve Menzies
Michael Worrincy
Nick Scrutton
Semi Tadulala
The players Macca has brought in are no where near the quality that has left since the start of his reign.
I was a big fan of Maccas as a player, but we cannot allow that to cloud our judgement!!! He has to go!!!
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| Quote ="bullinenemyland"Whilst I would agree that Nobby signing Harris wasn't the best move, Fielden did leave in Maccas reign. It has to be questioned, why let the following players go if you annot replace them with better players?
Players Out
Michael Withers
Marcus Bai
Ben Harris
Shontayne Hape
Lesley Vainakolo
Iestyn Harris
Joe Vagana
Ian Henderson
Brad Meyers
Chris McKenna
Paul Johnson
Stanley Gene
Brett Ferres
Ryan Atkins
Dave Halley (on loan)
Stuart Fielden
Players in
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Glenn Morrison- Probably best signing
Chris Feather
James Evans
Michael Platt
Tame Tupou
David Solomono
Simon Finnigan
Wayne Godwin
Chris Nero
Ben Jefferies
Paul Sykes
Rikki Sheriffe
Steve Menzies
Michael Worrincy
Nick Scrutton
Semi Tadulala
The players Macca has brought in are no where near the quality that has left since the start of his reign.
I was a big fan of Maccas as a player, but we cannot allow that to cloud our judgement!!! He has to go!!!'"
Most of the player you state he let go went for numerous reasons and would not have sayed for any coach.
Mick Withers fantatstic as he was, was let go because he was knackered as was proved a correct decision when he had to retire a few months into a 2 year contract with wigan.
Les and Shonny were also too crocked to play RL at the level they were used to play.
Brett Ferres who I used to cheer on was so successful Wakey let him go.
Hendo, Myers, Bai and Ben Harris clearly wanted to go back to Aus. (and did)
Paul Johnson wanted a $HITLOAD OF MONEY WHICH COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED
Feilden clearly stated he wanted to go!
Stan wanted to see his career out with KR.
So the only 2 he could have kept was I harris who most of the fans thought was ok but not worth the large salary we were paying him.
I would have liked to have kept Ryan Atkins but when he was let go we had two better centres. (I may be wrong but I thought this was under Noble)
So in most of the cases you have cited Mcnamara either made the right decision or had no sway in what the individual players chose to do.
With regards to recruitment, we dont have a great deal of dosh and so he has work in the market for the players we can afford.
It is still early doors this season and it is far from great, but I see no point at all in sacking the coach until we have someone who we feel can really make a difference, not the likes of Mcrae, Harrison and co who have done nothing.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'm at the stage where I wouldn't be against seeing a change in the coaching team as things currently stand. But I'd rather the club waited until a credible and experienced option became available. I'm not in favour of sacking the coach and paying out compensation and then being left to pick between a few coaches such as Millward/Harrison who didn't exactly cover themselves in glory at their last clubs.
I personally feel we should begin thinking long and hard about possible options for 2010. Ok it's a gamble because fans will become disheartened if results continue to be poor. But there is no short term miracle answer and we lack an assistant capable of undertaking a caretaker role until the end of the year.'" Steve Folkes, John Lang & Graham Murry.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I'm at the stage where I wouldn't be against seeing a change in the coaching team as things currently stand. But I'd rather the club waited until a credible and experienced option became available. I'm not in favour of sacking the coach and paying out compensation and then being left to pick between a few coaches such as Millward/Harrison who didn't exactly cover themselves in glory at their last clubs.
I personally feel we should begin thinking long and hard about possible options for 2010. Ok it's a gamble because fans will become disheartened if results continue to be poor. But there is no short term miracle answer and we lack an assistant capable of undertaking a caretaker role until the end of the year.'"
No, you've got it ALL WRONG! Can't you see that we just have to sack the coach, empty the coffers by paying him the rest of his salary to the end of the year in compensation, and send for the tooth fairy to bring us the pot of dosh - likely at least twice the size - to bring in a replacement who - if they were that good - would not be looking for another club (or at least ours) anyway? What sensible, reasonable person could possibly take issue with that well-thought out and financially practicable strategy?
I always had you down as one of the most sensible posters on here, but how on earth you expect anyone to go along with such an extreme, knee-jerk, ill-considered proposal as you have put forward is beyond me! You need to appreciate that the "hang 'em high" brigade really do know best...no really...
[size=59And the scary thing is, some on here will actually see it that way! [/size
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| Quote ="eddievan"Paul Johnson wanted a $HITLOAD OF MONEY WHICH COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED'"
More to the point, PJ's injury record meant the club could simply not justify keeping him on a senior player's salary - IIRC he was available for just over 50 of the well over 90 games he could have played in. Funnily enough, the Wire fans have bemoaned for ages the injury issues with PJ (and Sicknote Bridge for that matter).
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| Quote ="Adeybull"More to the point, PJ's injury record meant the club could simply not justify keeping him on a senior player's salary - IIRC he was available for just over 50 of the well over 90 games he could have played in. Funnily enough, the Wire fans have bemoaned for ages the injury issues with PJ (and Sicknote Bridge for that matter).'" 26 appearances out of a possible 56 in his last two seasons here.
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| Quote ="redeverready"26 appearances out of a possible 56 in his last two seasons here.'"
Was it that few? Sort of proves the point, I guess.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Was it that few?
Sort of proves the point, I guess.'" Yes 15 games in 2005 and a 11 in 2006.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Steve Folkes, John Lang & Graham Murry.'"
Would be an interesting choice, but he has been linked with a few jobs over here. Why has he never come over?
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"Would be an interesting choice, but he has been linked with a few jobs over here. Why has he never come over?'" AFAIK he's only ever been linked never directly approached as he's been contracted to the Bulldogs.
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| I would only sack a coach if:
1) I had a much better replacement lined up to take his place; or
2) I had a highly promising, or very experienced, assistant who I was happy to promote to a caretaker role whilst I found a replacement; or
3) He had done something totally outrageous that demanded instant dismissal; or
4) My club had such stature and pulling power that I knew there would be a long queue of coaches begging for his job.
Not sure that the Bulls fit into any of these categories.
I still think that ideally MacNamara should be given until June/July, but I'd be surprised if Hood wasnt going through his phonebook checking the numbers of various coaches' agents.
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| Quote ="Cibaman"I would only sack a coach if:
1) I had a much better replacement lined up to take his place; or
2) I had a highly promising, or very experienced, assistant who I was happy to promote to a caretaker role whilst I found a replacement; or
3) He had done something totally outrageous that demanded instant dismissal; or
4) My club had such stature and pulling power that I knew there would be a long queue of coaches begging for his job.
Not sure that the Bulls fit into any of these categories.
I still think that ideally MacNamara should be given until June/July, but I'd be surprised if Hood wasnt going through his phonebook checking the numbers of various coaches' agents.'" I think you'd be surprised the amount of interest if the job became open.
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| Quote ="redeverready"I think you'd be surprised the amount of interest if the job became open.'"
Amount or quality?
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| Quote ="Cibaman"Amount or quality?'" Both.
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| Quote ="redeverready"Both.'"
Before or after they were appraised of the limited funds available for new signings?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Before or after they were appraised of the limited funds available for new signings?'"
And the small or negligible sum offered as a wage after Macca's compo has been paid , still I like the tooth fairy idea anyone know who their agent is or where they reside maybe we could all pop over and rattle our collection tins to see if we can get enough dosh to fulfill some of the aspirations of the loyal and faithful Bradford fans.
TBH he has got a big hole to dig us out of, his new contract and our season will probably come down to the next 10 games, but I doubt he will leave until the end of the season. I hope we get to see our team start to perform, wining the league or the cup is a big ask ATM but good entertaining committed rugby would be a good starting point.
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Before or after they were appraised of the limited funds available for new signings?'" Where's the proof for this same nugget what keeps cropping up. Peter Hood has said on numerous occasion's that we are spending to the full cap and the top players what come available we would still be in the market for. He's either telling the truth or lying and taking the fans for mugs.
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