I love coming over to your ground it is easy to get to no problem parking. It is far too big for rugby league and very outdated, Make it smaller bring the fans closer to the pitch and sort out the uneven playing field. Why were the gates not open to let fans in until 2 pm when there fans in thousands waiting outside and when they did open the turnstyles only opened one at each entrance. Why dont you let fans in early and make more money on food and soft drinks because there is nowhere near the ground apart from that pub across the road for us to go and not all fans want a pub. We ended going into the sports centre across the road for a cup ot tea .

Glad you enjoyed your visit, but 'make it smaller'??

How exactly would you go about doing that then?

My guess is do a win-win deal with Tesco to redevelop the ground on the back of a big Tesco retail development. Like several other clubs have done, including Wire?

But hang on...didn't we try that, but for some strange reason - entirely coincidentally at the time BCFC were desperate to secure additional income at Valley Parade - the politicians put paid to it? Summat to do with Tesco having a non-food component, and the city "centre" being thereby threatened? In the way that the Matalan on the nearby Morrisons Mayo Avenue site, the Tesco up Great Horton Road and the massive impending redeveloped Tesco on Canal Road seemingly do not?

I wonder what 'wire women' meant by 'sorting out' the uneven playing field?



Bet Mick G would be willing to help out here!

Didn't Ken Morrison object to the Tesco development and never puts any money back into the city!

think morrisons were rumoured to be planning to object, but it never got that far and got thrown out by central government iirc

my 1st time yesterday to your ground and must say i think its a lovely stadia.

That's a myth.

The proposal included out of town retail space which, supposedly, was against Government policy at the time - it was automatically referred for a Government inquiry because of this, at which point Tesco pulled out because they didn't want the cost and time associated with that.

So they said.

Funnily enough they got the Canal Road and Gt Horton Road developments through shortly afterwards.

Ha ha!! Opened a can of worms there i see !! Dont blame tescos etc. Why didn t your club improve things in the hay day and put money into it. No answers to yesterdays problems then?

Well if you aren't fit enough or prepared to walk more than 100 metres then the pub across the road is your lot. BTW what exactly is there near the Halliwell Jones except er pubs?

Firstly, because the club did not own the ground. The council did.

Secondly, because TWO major council/club proposals to redevelop the ground came to naught, because the developers pulled out or could not deliver.

Thirdly, the club took over a long leasehold on the ground several years ago. And spent I think it was pushing £2m on work on the ground. Where do you think the Coral Stand at the other end came from? Bulls paid for that. But the club has no wealthy backer, and does not have anything like the funds for building new stands. Never did have. It needs partners, and - unlike you, Saints, Wigan, Salford (soon) etc we were not allowed a retail partner. Nor did our council have a telecoms company to sell, or the club a cricket ground to sell.

Fourthly, what you called our "heyday" lasted but a few years, and over that time the club at best broke even. Very few RL clubs ever make sustained profits - your has not - and so cannot generate the funds internally for major stadium works. You need either a rich owner - ideally a property developer - or a major supermarket - to be able to do that.

Finalyy, you would still be at Wilderspool if it was not for Tesco. Your rugby club company is technically insolvent - it was not that from which any funding came. So please don't lecture us about that subject. Tesco effectively built you a stadium. That did not happen for us. That was your good fortune, and good luck to you - you deserved a break after some years of going through what we now are.

As for "answers to yesterday's problems", why the hell are you asking us? Some of our fans had the same experience. Try asking the club?

Only asked asked a question didnt lecture you . You went on a rant about it

I don't know what's more embarrassing, you utter lack of idea about your own club's history and financial situation, or your inexplicably calling a detailed explanation - which seeing as you are oblivious to the facts was actually a favour to you - a "rant".

Quite how parts of a city that receives inner city development grants can also be subject to out of town planning requirements will always remain a mystery to me.

In or out - you need to shake it all about.

There were a lot of new Wire fans at the ground. I was asked directions several times by people who didn't know where anything was.

This meant that a lot of wire fans didn't realise there are gates at the back of the stadium too as well as some further down the road. So there were long queues at a couple of gates and many other gates empty. I walked past a queue with 100 or more people in it and walked through a turnstile without having to queue at all.

I really hope there are so many for the league match so that they do get to come in early. With an academy game on there would be plenty of time to get people in earlier and avoid turnstile congestion

Tesco?



Seriously though, the town centre is about three minutes away from the ground.


More on topic, I think your ground is cracking, don't change it too much.

Jesus wept! Hello, planet Earth calling, is there anybody there??

Wire woman woo hoo I love you baby
Wire woman woo hoo won't you be my lady
Wire woman woo hoo do you like table tennis?
Wire woman woo hoo because I can play you at Richard Dunns before the league match

I don`t think there will be as many fans coming to Odsal in a few weeks time, they probably will not be getting cheap £4 coach tickets.

i like your ground its got loads of history but like the zoo we used to play its tired and dated, why did they spend all that money on that new coral stand a few years back surley the money needed spending on other parts of the ground ? i had a great day good drink in que gardens but i feel for you ive bein there when we were and our attendences were low, but i carnt understand whats going wrong you have let so many good young players go we do benfit from moranavich theres point hiding that fact, but surley when u were pulling in 15 k plus for home you were making good money, would a move in with bradford city work and save you money would it bring the fans back ? and why 7k plus for game against us and then 8k plus for fartown game i honestly thought more of you would of bin there for the cup game. any way all the best and i hope you turn your fortunes around soon but not at our expense lol

I used to get Bulls fans asking me the same thing 10 years ago.

Why do people like this ground? Its a dump!

It's certainly no HQ.