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| Simple as far as I can see Mr Green ... Sack them all for dereliction of duties.
The players, the coach, the assistant coach the whole stinking, rotting lot of 'em.
Start the HR process tomorrow, it would happen in any other business up and down the land. Go through the right protocols and disciplinary's and voila no contracts to pay out. Breach of contract.
Just play the youth for the rest of the season, bring in an experienced coach and build from there.
The only people that I wouldn't sack are the long suffering fans who pay our extremely hard earned money to watch that shower of s**t turn out every week.
Have just got back after a stop off on the way home and having time to calm down and think about it I have decided I am even more annoyed than during the match.
Words cannot begin to explain the anger and the pain inside at the moment - if you're a genuine fan (of any suffering club) you will understand!
If nothing is done it won't be long before the shouts of 'Green Out' resound round Odsal!
Fiddling while Rome burns anyone?
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| "long suffering" ??
i wouldn't say 5/6 years is long suffering, i guess thats what happens when you are brought up on unlimited success.
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| Quote ="meast""long suffering" ??
i wouldn't say 5/6 years is long suffering, i guess thats what happens when you are brought up on unlimited success.'"
We had a slow start with Mick Potter, but were improving. Under McNamara we suffered countless boring games with poor results. So for 7 years we were in the wilderness. Please dont assume what you don't know. We embraced our success brought about by a belief that the only way to achieve success was to work hard and deliver value for money to supporters and sponsors alike, your assumption that we as a group were brought up on success doesn't take into account that whilst we tasted success, we had known many lean years, pre the good times when the Bulls were the pioneers of Summer Rugby and Super League.
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| Simply have to make sure we have the right man in charge of our club next season heading into SL 2. Lost a lot of confidence in FC being the right man to lead us out of this difficult period. Right now, I think it would be a huge gamble to continue with the current coaching setup for next year. I suspect the marketing guys will have a tough job selling it to the fans as well.
I believe the time is right to thank FC for all he has done in very difficult circumstances but look to make a change. It probably won't alter our fate for this year but I'd like to see an experienced coach who knows both SL and Championship level well brought in. I think Karl Harrison or John Kear would be decent options for us right now if they're up for the challenge.
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| The 'suffering' does not relate solely to performances on the field, it's more the off the field soap opera [incompetence, lying, false dawns, utter shambles really which wears you down over time. I have developed a certain amount of 'Bulls fatigue' the past 2 years or so. Following your team should be fun, a pleasant distraction from the daily grind regardless of whether you win, lose or draw. The Bulls have been emotionally draining to the extent I think 'is it really worth the angst any more?'. There is enough seriousness in my life as it is without the Bulls occupying some of that territory as well.
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| Fax fans would be delighted if we took Harrison of them. Every one I know absolutely slates him. Kear or noble are only realistic options IMO.
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| Kear would probably be a good choice at that level, think the Bulls could use a motivator with recent experience of Championship rugby.
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| Quote ="meast""long suffering" ??
i wouldn't say 5/6 years is long suffering, i guess thats what happens when you are brought up on unlimited success.'"
As rarebreed stated on his later mail, we had 7 fantastic years (1999 - 2006) and yes we absolutely embraced it with open arms and with as much vim and vigour as you can imagine .... Since then a gradual, relentless downhill decline.
Simple maths tells you more barren years of decline than of success.
For me personally, first game was '76 and smitten ever since even through the Seaboune years!
So yes Meast I do know what it is like to support through many many barren years and yes I did enjoy the glory years as well.
I feel more than qualified as Bulls/Northern fan to have a right old go at the current crop (players & coaching set up) given their inept performances this season.
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| It ain't easy following a club that takes one step forward and two back.for me it's not all about the club, it's about the game in general. I have just lost interest, and developed cant be bothered attitude . Some of that could be fifty years of nothing, at least you have a history you could take part in. The SL years will have your club engraved on its history for ever. I think the SL years could and should have been managed better , our sport been allowed to take a back seat while the SL train kept on track. I honestly think that promotion and relegation should be the back bone of every sport , but I would suggest every three years not at the end of each season. The team with the best record over that period gets promoted, with the team with the worst record going in the opposite direction. That would allow clubs to plan for the future. Things don't look great , but it ain't all over yet. I also think J K would be a great choice for coach. All the best
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| Past your bedtime surely? there is school tomorrow after all.
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| Quote ="meast""long suffering" ??
i wouldn't say 5/6 years is long suffering, i guess thats what happens when you are brought up on unlimited success.'"
Unlike Huddersfield who finished bottom of the pile on numerous occasions without being relegated the Bulls fans will have to suffer relegation. Unlike the Huddersfield fans the Bulls fans stand by their club, turning up week in week out.
Bradford will be a loss to Super League .... unlike Huddersfield and its car load of fans.
Genuinely hope Bradford can bounce back
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| Quote ="meast""long suffering" ??
i wouldn't say 5/6 years is long suffering, i guess thats what happens when you are brought up on unlimited success.'"
even Huddersfield fans are coming to stick the boot in??
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| Quote ="BD"even Huddersfield fans are coming to stick the boot in??'"
I even saw one at an away game the other week
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Grow up man, if this was the other way round I'd be gutted, show a little respect!
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Grow up man, if this was the other way round I'd be gutted, show a little respect!
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| Quote ="Bob Dylan's Hat"The 'suffering' does not relate solely to performances on the field, it's more the off the field soap opera [incompetence, lying, false dawns, utter shambles really which wears you down over time. I have developed a certain amount of 'Bulls fatigue' the past 2 years or so. Following your team should be fun, a pleasant distraction from the daily grind regardless of whether you win, lose or draw. The Bulls have been emotionally draining to the extent I think 'is it really worth the angst any more?'. There is enough seriousness in my life as it is without the Bulls occupying some of that territory as well.'"
Spot on. I think there are plenty who feel the same.
I'll carry on, hopefully new venues with competitive matches at a lower level will bring some interest back [iif [/iwe can see some geniune attempts at rebuilding the club from bottom to top.
Ill be off to London away on the last weekend, kind of feels like a funeral obligation!
And to the OP, I can't really argue, today I wouldnt miss any of them.....tomorrow I might realise some of them can help the rebuild, but yesterday I'd have bought any of them a one way ticket to the club of their choice.
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| Quote ="meast""long suffering" ??
i wouldn't say 5/6 years is long suffering, i guess thats what happens when you are brought up on unlimited success.'"
The 'problems' have gone on since 2004/5, though it's fair to say that, on the field at least, they showed up slowly since then. I think you're right in some ways and there are lots of fans who started in the late 90s who have known little but success for quite a while, and 'normality' would have been a bigger shock to their systems than for the longer term fans.
I think for such as myself, who can remember not only being in div2 previously but the single league and the Yorks and Lancs leagues before that, there is little problem! Are Bramley still at Barley Mow........?
[size=50Are Bramley still at Barley Mow........?[/size JOKE!
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I believe the time is right to thank FC for all he has done in very difficult circumstances but look to make a change. It probably won't alter our fate for this year but I'd like to see an experienced coach who knows both SL and Championship level well brought in. I think Karl Harrison or John Kear would be decent options for us right now if they're up for the challenge.'"
Cannot see either of them leaving where they are to take over a smaller club, would maybe show a lack of ambition if they did.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Cannot see either of them leaving where they are to take over a smaller club, would maybe show a lack of ambition if they did.'"
1 out of 10 for effort. must try harder
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| It almost had a ceremonial feel about it as I turned off the sky sports package last night. Sort of like the wistful look around the flat at the end of the last only fools and horses.
What is the capacity of horsfall statdium thingy? Would it be big enough for SL2?
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| London away is going to be an emotional day....
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| Quote ="JUDGE666"London away is going to be an emotional day....'"
The irony is we will probably be playing them again next season.
Though the way things seem to be going at present with the deafening silence from the owners I am starting to wonder if there will be any team to support next season in any league?
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| Quote ="Northernrelic"The irony is we will probably be playing them again next season.
Though the way things seem to be going at present with the deafening silence from the owners I am starting to wonder if there will be any team to support next season in any league?'"
It has only been a week since MG was on national television, telling everyone he was in it for the long haul and, should we be relegated, we will try and get back in the SL as soon as possible.
What more do you want? Another article saying the exact same thing?
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| Quote ="Nothus"It has only been a week since MG was on national television, telling everyone he was in it for the long haul and, should we be relegated, we will try and get back in the SL as soon as possible.
What more do you want? Another article saying the exact same thing?'"
Aye,we've had plenty of WORDS as we accelerated towards relegation with not so much as a whimper.
ACTION---NOT WORDS.
Sackings---get a COACH in place that is gonna send a CLEAR MESSAGE to the FEW remaining supporters they have left---"WE ARE GOING STRAIGHT BACK UP" and maybe,just maybe they will sell more than 2,000 season tickets---maybe?
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