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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"stand by what? That leeds title win last year was hollow, but wigans this year isn't, even though the circumstances are similiar?
The same reasons which you used to rubbish leeds title last year could be used to rubbish wigan's title this year.
The argument is all bollox. It's playground logic. A title, is a title, is a title. You might as well argue wigan's title in 1998 was hollow because bradford were sh*t, saints were sh*t, and leeds, the only decent challenger hadn't won a title in nearly 30 years so were inexperienced, so wigan won by default.......hollow title!!
Wigan fans are bad losers, but even worse winners.'"
It is harder to be the best over 27 rounds (when all teams are trying) than to win the Grand Final although a tad bit of luck does come into the play offs.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"You're stretching it abit there with MoM awards and what not. Comes across as desperate. A very unattractive quality, rather like the fare on offer at Langtree Park these days.
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I don,t think it will have any value to third parties until some other team emulates it. Saints won the League Leaders Shield 3 or 4 years on the trot and it became known as the hub cap. Recently Warrington and Huddersfield have won it and now its increased in market value.
Our triple triple is factual and is just an indicator that the 2006 team dominated every avenue of rugby league that season and is a proud moment in our history.
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| Quote ="St pete"No wonder all my pie eating mates don't buy season tickets as it's been made pretty clear on this thread that your season only starts for real in September. I don't blame you lot for not buying season tickets then.
Obviously with wigans way of thinking it's better to just pay on challenge cup days and play off times, it will be cheaper and more enjoyable.'"
Yeah, I'll just turn up to watch the finals and O'Loughlin to lift the trophies. Why waste time and money going to the insignificant matches that don't count?
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"Yeah, I'll just turn up to watch the finals and O'Loughlin to lift the trophies. Why waste time and money going to the insignificant matches that don't count?'"
It's pretty clear you don't understand how a club generates money to survive.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Does anybody seriously believe Huddersfield would have finished top in a first past the post system? Course they wouldn't.
Last season, Wane treated it as such. He had the team go flat out in every game and it backfired when it mattered. I think a few clubs have (finally) woken up and learnt what Leeds have known for a few years - finishing top means jack if you don't lift the big one.'"
There are only three pots available each year. Hudds won one of them, which is tremendous for a club that has won jack for decades. If clubs concentrate on getting to the gf at the expense of winning the hubcap, that is surely good for another club to lift some silverware? Maybe saints realistically should target the hubcap next season at the expense of the gf? How long is it since we had the silver polish out?
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Much better, our titles were more like a triple triple in 2006.
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Obviously this year the standard of rugby league is so much better and Wigan,s double is far superior to the above.'"
And wigan fans get accussed of living in the past.
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Obviously this year the standard of rugby league is so much better and Wigan,s double is far superior to the above.'" And wigan fans get accused of living in the past.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Much better, our titles were more like a triple triple in 2006.
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Obviously this year the standard of rugby league is so much better and Wigan,s double is far superior to the above.'" And wigan fans get accused of living in the past.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Much better, our titles were more like a triple triple in 2006.
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Obviously this year the standard of rugby league is so much better and Wigan,s double is far superior to the above.'"
And wigan fans get accused of living in the past.
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Much better, our titles were more like a triple triple in 2006.
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Obviously this year the standard of rugby league is so much better and Wigan,s double is far superior to the above.'"
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| Quote ="Judder Man"Much better, our titles were more like a triple triple in 2006.
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Obviously this year the standard of rugby league is so much better and Wigan,s double is far superior to the above.'"
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| They also get accused of repeating themselves alot!!!!!!!!!! Had a bit to drink have we.
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| Quote ="Top Saint"eusa_eh.gif They also get accused of repeating themselves alot!!!!!!!!!!
Had a bit to drink have we.
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Ha ha i know posted same thing a few times sorry.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Their culture. No, not the culture of the town, you can put your Mum's skirt down. I mean the club's mentality. They are coached by a deranged gorilla, but no matter how average the players are that they put out, they all go out with the mentality of 17 Japanese kamikaze pilots. Ultra aggressive from the first minute of the season to the last, no a complete disregard for their health.
To come back from 16-2 down today was simply magnificent. As much as I despise their very being, we must learn to adopt their mentality. The aggression, the clinical execution, the never say die attitude.'"
I am not quite sure a 'deranged gorilla' could lead a team to win the double! I am sure if the 'deranged gorilla' coached you then you wouldn't be called Shaun Wane that! Then again, he would be coaching a whole team of 'deranged' players.
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| Quote ="St pete"I've got to take my hat off to the Ape though wining the double. It's got to be the worst team on paper to ever win a cup never mind the double.
Wigan always work hard and play for each other.'"
Why the worst team ever? Half of them are too young to have made a name for themselves yet....and they beat established teams?? Remind me again who is the worst team on paper??
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"You are capable of some very lucid discussion. No need to call him puerile names. And winning a cup, or two, probably means it isn't the worst team, on paper or otherwise.
I know it's hard to give respect, even grudgingly, but there's no need for disrepect.'"
Sad times calls for dirty measures!!
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| Quote ="GedsLadders"
It's exactly what I said, I think it's the worst team to ever win the grand final. Maybe that's more of a compliment for Wane and his team that a average team has done the double.
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| Quote ="St pete"
What does that say about your team then if wigan are the worst ever to do the double.
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| Quote ="GedsLadders"
That we are rubbish.
And your point is ?
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| Quote ="St pete"
Whatever you say mate. Saints win trophys and there a great team,wigan win trophys and the standard of super league is poor,and wigan are the worst team to win the double. Jealousy is a terrible thing.
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| Quote ="GedsLadders"
Not jealous at all mate. I just think on paper it's a poor poor team and the worst to win a grand final. I've got great respect for Wigan team, they work hard, well coached and are winners. It's a team with only one star in Sam tomkins, the rest are nothing special but have great work ethic.
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| Quote ="St pete"
Its a good job the game is,nt played on paper then.
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| Quote ="GedsLadders"
I didn't see that coming
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| Quote ="GedsLadders"
That's his point, genius.
Look at your own team. Look at the players you've lost. People thought when Leulie and Finch were replaced by Smith and Green, it would be a real step down, but you've made it work.
Smith has nowhere near the all round ability/star quality of Leiulieu, but Wane saw that he had a massive boot and knew he could make the rest of his game work within the team. Smith's worked hard and became an integral part of a very slick operation.
Had Wigan not signed him, do you think Salford would've not signed Chase and Tim Smith (who failed at Wigan, remember)? Of course they would.
However other fans phrase it, its a compliment to Wane, its a compliment to the Wigan club and culture and its a compliment to the lads who pull on the shirt every week.
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