From what I read when he signed the extra year was in Laffranchi's favour, I suppose it depends on what the club offers a player for another year that makes the decision to stay or not.

I disagree.

Flash will give us far more service and is English so does not take a quota spot. I'd also assume that he will be on less money. I actually think he is a better player too (more importantly!).

I'm not overly concerned with quota spots as I doubt most teams will fill the 5 spots anymore.

The money issue is a fair point, although I've not idea of the wage difference between Boof and Flash.

For me it's a straight toss up between them and I just think Laffranchi is the better player and only a short term measure.

Between Flanagan and Laffranchi, it would be Flanagan for me. Money and quota spots aside, I think he's a better player all round.

Quota spots are going to be absolutely crucial. If we're getting Walsh then we'll need someone other than Perry to leave if we're going to sign anyone like Paea or Hanbury.

Puletua most likely?

TP is due to retire this year as well!

St ruger beat me to it

Don't be surprised if TP has a swansong in the NRL.

Either way, I can't see the point of filling a quota spot with a well paid and underforming player when we have a cheaper, British player who can do a similar job. Being up to the quota limit has really held us back over the last 18 months.

yup, better leaving a spot open for a midseason swoop of someone truely good who becomes availiable

We could have brought Miller in this season if we had the quota spot, like Hull have done.

Or, potentially, Dobson.

Lol it's funny reading this back, because half that Salford team looked like they retired at the end of the last season

Interesting read. So this years super league out of contract list:

Bradford:
Matthew Diskin, James Donaldson, Brett Kearney, Adam O'Brien, Adrian Purtell, Chev Walker

Castleford:
Justin Carney, Jamie Ellis, Liam Finn, Dan Fleming, Lee Gilmour, Weller Hauraki, Oliver Holmes, Jordan Howden, Craig Huby, Frankie Mariano, Nathan Massey

Catalans:
Louis Anderson, William Barthau, Thomas Bosc, Julian Bousquet, Olivier Elima, Kevin Larroyer, Antoni Maria, Daryl Millard, Gregory Mounis, Lopini Paea, Mathias Pala, Eloi Pelissier, Leon Pryce, Mickael Simon, Brent Webb

Huddersfield:
Peter Aspinall, Ben Blackmore, Jason Chan, David Faiumu, Scott Grix, Josh Johnson, Nathan Mason, Jack Miller, Matthew Sarsfield

Hull fc:
Josh Bowden, Garreth Carvell, Liam Colbon, James Cunningham, Reece Dean, Aaron Heremaia, Richard Horne, Liam Kent, Shannon McDonnell, Jay Pitts, Alex Starling, Fetuli Talanoa, Harry Tyson-Wilson, Ryan Wilson

Hull Kr:
Matthew Beharrell, Omari Caro, Jordan Cox, Sonny Esslemont, James Green, Craig Hall, Macauley Hallett, David Hodgson, Steven Holker, Jamie Langley, Jason Netherton, Aaron Ollett

Leeds:
Luke Briscoe, Rob Burrow, James Duckworth, Ben Jones-Bishop, Kylie Leuluai, Kevin Sinfield, Brad Singleton

London:
Saeed Agboke, Jordan Atkins, Mike Bishay, Harvey Burnett, Mason Caton-Brown, Matthew Cook, Kieran Dixon, Erjon Dollapi, Josh Drinkwater, Ben Farrar, George Griffin, Olsi Krasniqi, Will Lovell, Iliess Macani, Nesiasi Mataitonga, Mike McMeeken, Scott Moore, Jamie O'Callaghan, Nick Slyney, Denny Solomona, Atelea Vea, Joel Wicks, James Woodburn-Hall

Salford:
Mat Ashurst, Jordan Davies, Jacob Emmitt, Ben Gledhill, Darrell Griffin, Stuart Howarth, Greg Johnson, Tommy Lee, Francis Meli, Adrian Morley, Jake Mullaney, Gareth Owen, Tim Smith, Adam Walne, Jordan Walne, Jason Walton, Paul Walton, Danny Williams

Saints:
Lewis Charnock, Alex Clare, Connor Dwyer, Mark Flanagan, Carl Forster, Adrian Gardner, Joe Greenwood, Jordan Hand, Anthony Laffranchi, Willie Manu, Greg Richards, Andre Savelio, Luke Thompson, James Tilley,
Paul Wellens, Gary Wheeler

Wakefield:
Scott Anderson, Peter Fox, Max Jowitt, Ali Lauitiiti, Richie Mathers, Vince Mellars, Jon Molloy, Richard Moore, Andy Raleigh, Nick Scruton, Ben Shulver, Harry Siejka, Steve Southern, Paul Sykes, Taulima Tautai, Lucas Walshaw, Danny Washbrook, Matt Wildie

Warrington:
Jordan Burke, Brad Dwyer, Michael Monaghan, Kevin Penny, Trent Waterhouse

Widnes:
David Allen, Kieran Butterworth, Hep Cahill, Liam Carberry, Jon Clarke, Danny Craven, Paddy Flynn, Danny Galea, Tom Gilmore, Declan Hulme, Willie Isa, Paul Johnson, Ben Kavanagh, Stefan Marsh, Eamon O'Carroll, Lloyd White

Wigan:
Matt Bowen, Joe Burgess, Dominic Crosby, Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Anthony Gelling, Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, James Greenwood, Ryan Hampshire, Jack Hughes, Jordan James, Rob Lever, Rhodri Lloyd, Dominic Manfredi, Jack Murphy, Sean O'Loughlin, Sam Powell, Scott Taylor, Lewis Tierney, Logan Tomkins, George Williams

Pick away

(I can keep this post up to date if wanted as and when info is available)

Quick look and some top players, but Matt Bowen? Did he only sign a one year, would bother for one season

with these probably not retained we should have a decent whack to spend

possibly add Manu and Wheeler to that too, but i'd keep Manu for at least 1 more year, probably get offered 2 at Salford though

Might be a 1+1 deal, in a similar way to Walsh's 2+1 deal. They're usually in the players favour for Ozzies

If lance goes and we still want a utility player I'd take Heremaia. He's always impressed me but doesn't seem to get a fair go at hull. He was on fire last year then was just dropped when Miller arrived.

Not sure on his age tho.

I'd take Heremaia/Pelissier, Huby and Green. I wouldn't replace Laffranchi with a quota player, we've got more than enough from the youth system to cover him. I can see Wello, Laffranchi, Gardner, Forster, Wheeler and even Beaumont going in the winter. I'm not judging Beaumont because he obviously hasn't played, but from what I saw of him at Hull KR, he's behind Walker, Richards, Thompson and Greenwood.

Most hull fans feel very much heremaia should be put at hooker and stay there, so I'm not sure how much utility we'd get out of him...

I think pelissier would be a good shout. But I trust those at the club (cough Kieran cough) to identify the a top young hooker to bring in when they feel it's needed.

Huby is the standout prop on the list for me, with a few younger ones also being a decent call (though as I've said elsewhere I'd like a bit more experience)

No real quality 6s available in the list, so any replacement for lance will be from aus I feel.

(Yes some on the list will have player options/ team options for next year - I will take them out as and when they are taken up - there are also some young players on the list who I believe are still on youth contracts so are contracted for next year, including a few of our own)

He can play in the halves, hooker and loose

He can, yes. But that doesn't mean he should! I'd rather we picked up an out and out reserve hooker who we can mold for the future

I was on about a utility player if lance leaves.

Don't know where your information is from but Burgess, Hampshire and Lever are contracted until end of 2016, Williams 2015!

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Interesting read. So this years super league out of contract list: Bradford: Matthew Diskin, James Donaldson, Brett Kearney, Adam O'Brien, Adrian Purtell, Chev Walker Castleford: Justin Carney, Jamie Ellis, Liam Finn, Dan Fleming, Lee Gilmour, Weller Hauraki, Oliver Holmes, Jordan Howden, Craig Huby, Frankie Mariano, Nathan Massey Catalans: Louis Anderson, William Barthau, Thomas Bosc, Julian Bousquet, Olivier Elima, Kevin Larroyer, Antoni Maria, Daryl Millard, Gregory Mounis, Lopini Paea, Mathias Pala, Eloi Pelissier, Leon Pryce, Mickael Simon, Brent Webb Huddersfield: Peter Aspinall, Ben Blackmore, Jason Chan, David Faiumu, Scott Grix, Josh Johnson, Nathan Mason, Jack Miller, Matthew Sarsfield Hull fc: Josh Bowden, Garreth Carvell, Liam Colbon, James Cunningham, Reece Dean, Aaron Heremaia, Richard Horne, Liam Kent, Shannon McDonnell, Jay Pitts, Alex Starling, Fetuli Talanoa, Harry Tyson-Wilson, Ryan Wilson Hull Kr: Matthew Beharrell, Omari Caro, Jordan Cox, Sonny Esslemont, James Green, Craig Hall, Macauley Hallett, David Hodgson, Steven Holker, Jamie Langley, Jason Netherton, Aaron Ollett Leeds: Luke Briscoe, Rob Burrow, James Duckworth, Ben Jones-Bishop, Kylie Leuluai, Kevin Sinfield, Brad Singleton London: Saeed Agboke, Jordan Atkins, Mike Bishay, Harvey Burnett, Mason Caton-Brown, Matthew Cook, Kieran Dixon, Erjon Dollapi, Josh Drinkwater, Ben Farrar, George Griffin, Olsi Krasniqi, Will Lovell, Iliess Macani, Nesiasi Mataitonga, Mike McMeeken, Scott Moore, Jamie O'Callaghan, Nick Slyney, Denny Solomona, Atelea Vea, Joel Wicks, James Woodburn-Hall Salford: Mat Ashurst, Jordan Davies, Jacob Emmitt, Ben Gledhill, Darrell Griffin, Stuart Howarth, Greg Johnson, Tommy Lee, Francis Meli, Adrian Morley, Jake Mullaney, Gareth Owen, Tim Smith, Adam Walne, Jordan Walne, Jason Walton, Paul Walton, Danny Williams Saints: Lewis Charnock, Alex Clare, Connor Dwyer, Mark Flanagan, Carl Forster, Adrian Gardner, Joe Greenwood, Jordan Hand, Anthony Laffranchi, Willie Manu, Greg Richards, Andre Savelio, Luke Thompson, James Tilley, Paul Wellens, Gary Wheeler Wakefield: Scott Anderson, Peter Fox, Max Jowitt, Ali Lauitiiti, Richie Mathers, Vince Mellars, Jon Molloy, Richard Moore, Andy Raleigh, Nick Scruton, Ben Shulver, Harry Siejka, Steve Southern, Paul Sykes, Taulima Tautai, Lucas Walshaw, Danny Washbrook, Matt Wildie Warrington: Jordan Burke, Brad Dwyer, Michael Monaghan, Kevin Penny, Trent Waterhouse Widnes: David Allen, Kieran Butterworth, Hep Cahill, Liam Carberry, Jon Clarke, Danny Craven, Paddy Flynn, Danny Galea, Tom Gilmore, Declan Hulme, Willie Isa, Paul Johnson, Ben Kavanagh, Stefan Marsh, Eamon O'Carroll, Lloyd White Wigan: Matt Bowen, Joe Burgess, Dominic Crosby, Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Anthony Gelling, Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, James Greenwood, Ryan Hampshire, Jack Hughes, Jordan James, Rob Lever, Rhodri Lloyd, Dominic Manfredi, Jack Murphy, Sean O'Loughlin, Sam Powell, Scott Taylor, Lewis Tierney, Logan Tomkins, George Williams Pick away (I can keep this post up to date if wanted as and when info is available)'" There's a lot of misinformation on that site. e.g. rleague.com/news/Wigan-sign-six- ... als_75815/

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"Interesting read. So this years super league out of contract list: Bradford: Matthew Diskin, James Donaldson, Brett Kearney, Adam O'Brien, Adrian Purtell, Chev Walker Castleford: Justin Carney, Jamie Ellis, Liam Finn, Dan Fleming, Lee Gilmour, Weller Hauraki, Oliver Holmes, Jordan Howden, Craig Huby, Frankie Mariano, Nathan Massey Catalans: Louis Anderson, William Barthau, Thomas Bosc, Julian Bousquet, Olivier Elima, Kevin Larroyer, Antoni Maria, Daryl Millard, Gregory Mounis, Lopini Paea, Mathias Pala, Eloi Pelissier, Leon Pryce, Mickael Simon, Brent Webb Huddersfield: Peter Aspinall, Ben Blackmore, Jason Chan, David Faiumu, Scott Grix, Josh Johnson, Nathan Mason, Jack Miller, Matthew Sarsfield Hull fc: Josh Bowden, Garreth Carvell, Liam Colbon, James Cunningham, Reece Dean, Aaron Heremaia, Richard Horne, Liam Kent, Shannon McDonnell, Jay Pitts, Alex Starling, Fetuli Talanoa, Harry Tyson-Wilson, Ryan Wilson Hull Kr: Matthew Beharrell, Omari Caro, Jordan Cox, Sonny Esslemont, James Green, Craig Hall, Macauley Hallett, David Hodgson, Steven Holker, Jamie Langley, Jason Netherton, Aaron Ollett Leeds: Luke Briscoe, Rob Burrow, James Duckworth, Ben Jones-Bishop, Kylie Leuluai, Kevin Sinfield, Brad Singleton London: Saeed Agboke, Jordan Atkins, Mike Bishay, Harvey Burnett, Mason Caton-Brown, Matthew Cook, Kieran Dixon, Erjon Dollapi, Josh Drinkwater, Ben Farrar, George Griffin, Olsi Krasniqi, Will Lovell, Iliess Macani, Nesiasi Mataitonga, Mike McMeeken, Scott Moore, Jamie O'Callaghan, Nick Slyney, Denny Solomona, Atelea Vea, Joel Wicks, James Woodburn-Hall Salford: Mat Ashurst, Jordan Davies, Jacob Emmitt, Ben Gledhill, Darrell Griffin, Stuart Howarth, Greg Johnson, Tommy Lee, Francis Meli, Adrian Morley, Jake Mullaney, Gareth Owen, Tim Smith, Adam Walne, Jordan Walne, Jason Walton, Paul Walton, Danny Williams Saints: Lewis Charnock, Alex Clare, Connor Dwyer, Mark Flanagan, Carl Forster, Adrian Gardner, Joe Greenwood, Jordan Hand, Anthony Laffranchi, Willie Manu, Greg Richards, Andre Savelio, Luke Thompson, James Tilley, Paul Wellens, Gary Wheeler Wakefield: Scott Anderson, Peter Fox, Max Jowitt, Ali Lauitiiti, Richie Mathers, Vince Mellars, Jon Molloy, Richard Moore, Andy Raleigh, Nick Scruton, Ben Shulver, Harry Siejka, Steve Southern, Paul Sykes, Taulima Tautai, Lucas Walshaw, Danny Washbrook, Matt Wildie Warrington: Jordan Burke, Brad Dwyer, Michael Monaghan, Kevin Penny, Trent Waterhouse Widnes: David Allen, Kieran Butterworth, Hep Cahill, Liam Carberry, Jon Clarke, Danny Craven, Paddy Flynn, Danny Galea, Tom Gilmore, Declan Hulme, Willie Isa, Paul Johnson, Ben Kavanagh, Stefan Marsh, Eamon O'Carroll, Lloyd White Wigan: Matt Bowen, Joe Burgess, Dominic Crosby, Gil Dudson, Ben Flower, Anthony Gelling, Darrell Goulding, Blake Green, James Greenwood, Ryan Hampshire, Jack Hughes, Jordan James, Rob Lever, Rhodri Lloyd, Dominic Manfredi, Jack Murphy, Sean O'Loughlin, Sam Powell, Scott Taylor, Lewis Tierney, Logan Tomkins, George Williams Pick away (I can keep this post up to date if wanted as and when info is available)'" There's a lot of misinformation on that site. e.g. rleague.com/news/Wigan-sign-six- ... als_75815/