Lol
Is his contract up at the end of the year then?

Yes it up at end of year. I hear he wants 2 years but we only want to give him 1 year.

Y'know, Saints should make that their tagline, we're using it so often at present.

I know we are. I'd be happy to give gilmour 2 years.

Like with longy, its very difficult. Out of the two gilmour, IMO, is worth a two year deal more.

An excellent sr. Great leg drive. Hope Nathan Brown has a look at him.

Dont wory Marsden he has already signed.

Who?

Surley there are better in the NRL we can sign on a higher wage?

I'd prefer to keep him, but not on break-the-bank terms. If we let him go and let kids like Ashurst pick up the slack we'll clearly have to take a short term loss on the chin for long term gain.

I think we're fine in the back row; it's at prop where we're light.

Without Gilmour we still have four experienced back rowers (Wilkin, Flannery, Clough, Puletua) and two youngsters in Dixon and Ashurst who are highly rated and have seen first team action.

Compare that with our situation at prop, where next season we will only have Graham and Fa'asavalu who are IMO of the required quality to be regularly in the 17.

If letting Gilmour go means we can afford to bring in a quality prop then I'd be all for it.

And to answer the op's question - it would be a top signing for HKR, provided you used him in the pack.

We certainly can't afford to enter next season with only two props. It's suicide. To be in with a shout of winning SL you need FIVE. I'm willing to take a punt on one of the kids or Hargreaves, but only as the fifth prop. So where are the other two coming from?

wasn't tony p brought in as a prop?

IMO tony p is better at prop as he makes good meters, good offloads, he massive and it gets him more involved.

I think gilmour will be huge loss. Bigger than what people think.

I'd like saints keep gilmour and bring in at least 1 prop to join jammer, tony p, maurie and bryn as our 1st team props.

I also think we could do with a tackle breaking back row who can do something with ball in hand. Our pack don't have a fast tackle breaking forward.

The backs should do fine next year though IMO.

I think Tony was brought in as a back rower, and that's where I'd like him to stay. A big, destructive 2nd row is something we've lacked for a long time, and that's precisely what he is. In fact - you describe him in your own post:



I've no objection to him moving up to prop where necessary, but I'd much rather we bought in specialist props and let him wreak havoc out wide.

Yes I'd go with that but if we keep tony p in backrow I'd like us to bring in 2 props. We have jammer and maurie who IMO are the only 2 props good enough.

Bryn is ok as back up but to compete at top level next year I'd say we defo need 2 props.

Are there any british props available next year?
I know Paul King is prob leaving Hull, but I don't reckon he's any great shakes.

Agree 100%.



I couldn't see King being worthwhile, and I can't really think of any good British props that would be available. Hence my disappointment at us missing out on O'Meley.

Andy Coley.

Isn't Andy Lynch OOC. I think he'd be a very good signing.

He's extended his contract at the Bulls.

Andy Coley always looks alright when i've seen him. Certainly better than that pudding they've got in the front row with him.Would be a great signing, but may well be overpriced, i reckon. Not a great injury record, either...

Lynch re-signed with the dulls last month!!

Resigned?

Yup. Resigned to playing for the bulls.

Rumour on the Wakey board is that they've signed Shane Tronc from the cowboys.

Tronc is an awesome surname. Trevor Tronc would be a great name for a primeminister