I think the fact that he bottled it against Karl Pryce, the biggest player with the smallest heart in rugby, was fair proof.

Nah. It was your interpretation of events and that was ALL it was.

I certainly don't think he bottled it. He's shown incredible bravery on many occasions when catching the high ball and when tackling to convince me beyond a shadow of any doubt at all that he's as courageous player as the likes of Roby and Makinson.

How many tries have been scored against him why he has been at Hull? Certainly Charnley scored three against him in the game at Wigan.

Well, I've just been on the Superleague webiste to check and its slightly unreliable in regards the order it lists the various numbers 2 and 5 and who shoud actually be played opposite each other.

Charnley got 3 and Flynn got 1. That's all I know definately went down Foster's side.
If you look at the other matches, there are other no tries scored by Jamie's opposite (assuming 2 face 5).
So, 5 matches, 27 tries scored against Hull, 4 scored by Jamie's opposite number. Given that wingers generally tend to score more than any other position, I'd say that is not a damning stat at all, especially given some woeful Hull performances against Wigan and Widnes.

I dont think most people on here there are just a few exceptios that are righting off the Saints squad for this year.

These are the players I would keep from this years squad

Soliola
Hohaia (but only if he is installed as full back for 2013)
Lomax
Perry
Roby
LMS
Puletua
Wilkin
Laffranchi (as a back row forward)
Flanagan
Clough
Wheeler
Magennis
Dixon
Gaskell
Makinson
Foster
Ashe
Forster
Josh Jones

Moving on: Flannery, Shenton

Wellens, Gardner, Meli great servants to the club but now is the time to look to the future.

Do me a favour, make that point on the Hull board next time there's an appropriate thread. I've been making the point for ages about our right wing problem and the fact that they're playing outside of Turner and 1 or 2 don't seem to get what I'm saying. Incidentally, Foster's best performance for us was in his first game once he was playing outside Whiting. Even in that game he had a shaky start but got better though, and 'coincidentally' Turner went off after about 20 minutes.

Just look at Sharp and Martin as an example, Sharp was vastly improved from last year this season with a decent centre inside him, Turner is just plain awful

Jamie Foster did rather better tonight than on his previous visit to Bradford. 26 points by my count, a brace of tries and 9 goals.

He's a better winger than Tom Makinson. Just why on earth is he at Hull?

Jamie looked like his old self under the high ball tonight. I think that mauling of Bradford will have overcome all his demons.

If Foster can put the jitters behind him for good then I'd have him back in the Saints side tomorrow - he's certainly a better winger than Makinson has shown himself as being to date. It'll take more than a few good outings for Hull against whiopping boys to completely convince me yet though.

Blalocks.
He's a better goal kicker, yes, a better winger no. Did Foster manage to run a metre forward tonight when returning the ball?

Having watched him at Hull over the last month or so I would agree this is one area of his game that needs improvement. However the kid is one hell of a finisher and almost every opportunity he gets he somehow manages to score (speaking in terms of playing for Hull rather then Saints). I am not usually one for taking on loan signings, too skeptical about them but i would be happy if every loan signing came with the commitment and skill of Foster.

He hasn't disgraced himself under the high ball either.

Makinson is Jamie Foster without the goalkicking.

...and when was the last time you saw Makinson causing a defender any problems at all running a ball up exactly? Foster on the top of his game is a much more natural winger than we've ever seen Makinson be to date.

Foster is never a winger and never has been. I've watched him from being a 16 year old. He was centre to Shaun Ainscough for England v Australia and they both looked promising.

LOOKED being the operative word, Championship rugby beckons.

He's a bit lightweight, took a ball from dummy half tonight, one of the few times we were under our sticks, took it at speed, ran sideways for 30m, got smashed and did well not to get put in our own goal area.

You lot can have Jamie Foster back if you'll scrub Willie Manu's signature out.

Either use the word or don't. If the swear filter blocks it you can't use it, but please don't dodge the filter.

Don't get me wrong - I don't think either Foster or Makinson is top class or anywhere near it nor ever will be - but with the appalling standard of 3/4s in SL at the moment both easily have the makings of middle-to-top half of the table SL players. Either would have to decline substantially to end up in the Championship and you're just being silly. Maybe they'd both become world beaters if they joined Wigan instead, eh?

I,m no sure if the club development is at fault when they transition to the superleague team. We always seem to be conservative and push the young ones on the wing, is this to reduce risk.
Foster spent quite a while at centre, I,m sure Makinson was centre also, same goes for Swift correct me if I,m wrong but did he not start out at stand off and has ended up on the wing. We could say the one gamble is with Lomax trying to make him a scrum half.
Only Josh Jones looks in a natural position and is developing OK in defense and attack, are we handling the younger players in the correct manner. Maybe Mr Brown has better options for them.

I blame Mike Rush.

Just curious, if Foster plays for Hull in the play-offs would that then prevent him playing for us in the competition in the unlikely event that the need arises.


If he does play for them would we allow him to play against us??


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It was in the paper last week that he is playing for Hull in the play offs, but will not be allowed to play against us.

It looks he's very much been frozen out by Saints, I can't see him in a Saints shirt again.

I think your probably right , he doesn't seem like the type of player Brown has gone for at Hudds , maybe Hull will keep him

played well tonight and combined well with Turner.. although he did just get outpaced by big Eorl Crabtree