No i don't think he's burnt out, i think he's just out of form which happens to every player, even the great faz will have had a poor run of form.

The problem is, teams target him and batter him due to our one man rugby, everyone knows he's getting it and know if they shut him down we lose massive go forward.

Next year we will have perry, LMS and tony p as our first chice props so he will be alot better off than he is with bryn there.

I didn't see the "stamp" but if he has done it, i hope they ban him for the four nations so he's back fresh for saints.

whats the old saying , your as good as your last game ??

right , serious question

on current/recent form , does any die hard saints fan think he would have cut it in the NRL ?

he has his fans , he makes he mtrs , stats will prove that . but as i have said before , and others are now backing up , do you relly want your front line prop off loading before the collision SO MUCH ??

I think graham is a top class prop and prob by far the best prop in this counrty but im not sure he will cut it in the nrl.

I think the aussies will target the "pom" and will knock crap out of him.

He had no support though last night he was a 1 man pack, (apart from when Roby came on). When its like that you can tackle him out. Still the best prop in the league by some distance.

according to some, stu fielden was garbage against warrington when he was a 1 man pack ???



as i say , the mtrs gained stat nobody can argue with , its the manor in which a lot of the mtrs are gained im not a fan of

I said the same about Fielden in that game

I only watched the highlights of the SL Grand final that I had recorded (SL doesnt really fire my rockets)

But what it did prove to me was not only has James Graham got red hair and legs like 2 little milk bottles.....he is a pretty ordinary player.

And not only is he an ordinary player... he starts bleating to the referee.

He should have been made to sit down for 10 in my opinion.

Last nights performance has probably rooted his chance of getting a gig in the NRL.


Definately not up to NRL standards... no way in the world

I never thought he'd fit in playing in the NRL as he's pretty clean living.

He's not really into drink, drugs, rape, drink driving or wife beating.

Has the NRL got a shotage of good forwards? I ask as you've taken ellis (best forward in the world), luke burgess, falangan and you also want hock and graham.

I think you may have overdone the 'drowning your sorrows' bit last night mate





When did Luke Burgess join an NRL club?

I must have missed that one?

And who is 'Falangan'?


And just for the record... Paul Gallen is the best forward in the world.. closely followed by Sam Thaiday

tin hat time my antipodean friend !!!

Not even the most one eyed, blinkered Saint Helens fans could really disagree with any of that?

James Graham sucked.

Big time.




Well done on your win. I didnt watch the entire game (it was on at the Walkabout but no one really seemed interested) but I was hoping Wigan would win

Just a pity it wont be a Wigan v Roosters WCC next year

I think you'll find that the NRL players and coaches will know who burgess is. I think it was fellow convict that said ellis is the best forward in the world.

Graham should stay here before you lot get him involved in drinking, drugs, rape and wife beating.

Indeed he should

We have got enough poor quality Poms in the NRL without another one coming over.



Especially a ginger one








ps I think you meant Sammy Burgess not Luke

HTH

Yes i did mean sam but im sure luke would hold his own over in the one up NRL.

The British game is in a worse way than I first thought in that case

If weyman and the roosters number 20 can play NRL then any super league prop can play it.

Ryles also very poor who couldn't cut it in super league.

Only watched little bits of the NRL grand final as it's so boring.

It was poor this year I must be honest.

But look at the sides who were playing.

I don't watch the NRL anymore as it has become so boring one man rugby that makes me very sleepy.

Didn't the dragons finish top of the NRL ?

Didn't the roosters coach get the NRL coach of the year?

and......

Didn't the alcky at 6 for roosters get the dally m ?

St George are the best side in the comp?

Certainly got the best coach

Absolutely!!

Wayne Bennett could even make England win something






well....

Maybe

They should put him in charge of the aussies for the world cup, they might win it back from the world champs which is the kiwis.

NRL is very overrated in many repsects. We put it on a pedestal think its so much better. As the Aussies tells us it is. Internationally GB and England have struggled but in about 2-3 years the gap will narrow when players like Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, James Graham hit their prime. Foundations has been laid by cutting the amount of Overseas players coming into SL. The 3 players would be stars in the NRL.

But players like Ellis, Morley and Burgess have made an impact in the so called better competition. When weve had players who have come for the NRL to SL and gone home complaining of home sickenss. When infact its tougher than they thought. Danny Budereus a legend in NRL has looked average at best in SL. Cunningham is head and shoulders above him. And thats without the cry baby whinging NRL players who are here for a pension. SL is improving and the NRL is going backwards.



The only good side you had in the NRL was cheating the Storm.

NRL is so so boring, i can't bring myself to watch it anymore.

Yea NRL is so boring, no holding down at the play ball, or wrestling moves to slow the game down and faster wing men! Super League does not compare to RL in the Wembley Cup Final that the BBC showed recently on their rugby league night, even though Leeds won it was a different and more exciting game altogether.

Leeds won what ?