Shocked that there is no James Roby, he has been our stand out player by a mile and surely in the top 3 of the year?

But I've been convinced Paaaaat will win it for the past 3 months now.

Do we have any odds?

A good question. The acheivement was no mean feat, and I don't wish to take away anything from Richards, but....
He's the goal kicker for the club that's top of the table, so normally that guy finishes top point scorer.
He's the no 1 winger for the club that finished top, so probability would lead you to expect him to be top try scorer....

Richards is a good winger, but is he a great player? As an opposition fan, does you heart stop when he gets the ball? Does he frustrate you with awesome defence? Does he lead from front? Does he dominate his opposition physically? Does he show a standard of ability that 90% of SL players simply don't have?

Would you take him over a Darren Albert or a Jason Robinson? Would you take him over a Tom Briscoe, if you had the choice?

Full credit to Richards. When they signed him as a centre, he looked like he was going to flop - he's seriously pulled things round. Dream team, top scorer and MOS contender. He certainly deserves a paaaaaat on the back.

I'd like Tomkins to get it , these boards would go into meltdown

Morley for me, Just my opinion, but i think MOS should be a forward unless a back has been truely astounding ala Lyon in 2005

Can't say it would bother me. Morley's been fantastic this year and would be a deserved winner, as would the other 2.

why would they?

Morley?????


wtf.

Morley and Richards I can understand but I honestly can't see that Tomkins has been that good as to deserve MOS. He is very good don't get me wrong but I don't think he's done enough this season for that award.

When Roby got it as a youngster many said he didn't deserve it but he was ripping teams apart on his own during that season - has Tomkins done that? To the same degree? I wait to be convinced.

like when roby won it?

I'd really like to explain to me how Morley (as good as he has been) is in over Jammer www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 0&hp2=1885 And while i've started, how Sam tomkins is in over Robes? I know they're different positions, but come on! www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

I'd really like to explain to me how Morley (as good as he has been) is in over Jammer www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 0&hp2=1885 And while i've started, how Sam tomkins is in over Robes? I know they're different positions, but come on! www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010

Quote ="Saint Simon"I'd really like to explain to me how Morley (as good as he has been) is in over Jammer www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 0&hp2=1885 And while i've started, how Sam tomkins is in over Robes? I know they're different positions, but come on! www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" You and your bloody stats.

Quote ="Saint Simon"I'd really like to explain to me how Morley (as good as he has been) is in over Jammer www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 0&hp2=1885 And while i've started, how Sam tomkins is in over Robes? I know they're different positions, but come on! www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" You and your bloody stats.

haha i havnt posted any in months, but they are 1 of several good ways to judge a player, as apposed to going to see every game, which is impossible

Quote ="Saint Simon"I And while i've started, how Sam tomkins is in over Robes? I know they're different positions, but come on! www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" Well apart from tackles, offloads and one more try than Sam it's not as if Roby blows Tomkins out of the water. Compare their try assists, tackle busts or even clean breaks and Sam leads the way. I'd say there stats are near even for the job their asked to do in their respective teams. If anything those stats make it appear as though Roby's more of a defensive player. Which is clearly wrong as he's apt in both attack and defense, as is Tomkins. Your right in saying Roby's unlucky to miss out, but so is Westwood.

Quote ="Saint Simon"I And while i've started, how Sam tomkins is in over Robes? I know they're different positions, but come on! www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2010'" Well apart from tackles, offloads and one more try than Sam it's not as if Roby blows Tomkins out of the water. Compare their try assists, tackle busts or even clean breaks and Sam leads the way. I'd say there stats are near even for the job their asked to do in their respective teams. If anything those stats make it appear as though Roby's more of a defensive player. Which is clearly wrong as he's apt in both attack and defense, as is Tomkins. Your right in saying Roby's unlucky to miss out, but so is Westwood.

I can, and do, see the point when comparing props (although its still not the be all and end all), but I fail to see what insight your getting from the Tomkins-Roby comparison?

My point is, that robes has, imo had a better season than Sam, so should have made the list ahead of him (i also put it in to wind up some wigan fans too!)

roby has stood out in a less than dominant team, often coming on as an impact player, where his role by its very nature is to have a brief impact, Sam on the other hand is an 80 minute man and has stood out in a table topping side, there is the difference

Roby has stood out in a team 80 minutes from OT and that reached the semi finals in the cup.

Tomkins has stood out in a team that isn't and didn't.

Kieran Cunningham is also a big omission IMO.

Picking one of the three, Id go for Richards.....especially for the last minute penalty that his missed against Leeds last week!

I went for Richards, purely because I think Morley is overrated and I hate Tomkins.

Yes but without the same justification.

It is quite possible, though, that Roby has done an awful lot of defending this season as we have been a tad woeful in that department, bar a few very hardworking individuals, Robes included.

Saints were never going to get a look-in this season for any awards. We have snuck into the top two against the run of play. Most commentators have been writing us off all season, if they've actually been mentioning us at all. On top of that, of course, is the fact that so many Saints players have won the award in recent times that I cannot see opposition players voting for a Saints player for some time to come!

James Graham and James Roby both done more this year than the 3 nominated, I would personally hope Morlry got it of the 3, however Jammer has been best prop in England this year.

Yet the people who count i.e. the players think different .

Isn't it the case that the players pick from the three nominees, rather than nominating them?

Nope. The players already voted and mos has been decided, these are the top 3 which they release to give it more press etc etc.