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| Quote ="SaintsFan"The stadium or the whole development? I can't see the stadium name going up in print before the announcement.'"
It happened at Wigan with Central Park a couple of weeks ago. They put the signs up and then covered them before the "official announcement" However some people happened too see them before they were covered.
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| What are Saints like with ruining announcements? At least it isn't a politician we can abuse this time.
'McManus Drive'. How pretentious is that?
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| why just not put some sort of cover over the sign before it is revealed?
amateurish as ever it seems.
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| Quote ="EHW"why just not put some sort of cover over the sign before it is revealed?
amateurish as ever it seems.'"
Depends who is putting the sign up. If it's the council/highways agency/whoever then they aren't really concerned with publicity stunts.
If it's the club putting the signs up, then it's shambolic.
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| Most naming ceremonies go ahead after the name is known. It will still be shown in the press at the official ceremony.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"What are Saints like with ruining announcements? At least it isn't a politician we can abuse this time.
'McManus Drive'. How pretentious is that?'"
Not very , The Guy has kept the club in existence for God knows how many Years , Put in loads of his own money , I think Mr McManus deserves far more than a road naming after him, freedom of St Helens possibly? , and quite frankly your negativity over EVERYTHING , to do with the stadium is getting tedious in the extreme, Its an amazing achievement and i think the vast majority of fans, at least the ones i`ve met walking around the place cant wait to get in there and make it ours, but maybe you can sit outside and complain about something, maybe the grey isnt the right shade or possibly the stadium is a bit too far to the left !!
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| Maybe Mr McManus didn't know anything about it?
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| Quote ="roader"Maybe Mr McManus didn't know anything about it?'"
That would be my guess.
I think it's great that his name goes on the driveway! Without him neither the new stadium nor the club would exist today. This is the least that should be done in recognition of the input he has had to Saints. And if the stadium does take off as a local venue - which I sincerely hope it does - then he could also have a significant input into bringing something positive to the town as a whole.
It's looking seriously like the new stadium name is Langtree Park. If it is then that is great. Classy name.
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"Not very , The Guy has kept the club in existence for God knows how many Years , Put in loads of his own money , I think Mr McManus deserves far more than a road naming after him, freedom of St Helens possibly? , and quite frankly your negativity over EVERYTHING , to do with the stadium is getting tedious in the extreme, Its an amazing achievement and i think the vast majority of fans, at least the ones i`ve met walking around the place cant wait to get in there and make it ours, but maybe you can sit outside and complain about something, maybe the grey isnt the right shade or possibly the stadium is a bit too far to the left !!'"
Negative? Me? You sure you've got the right poster here? I have never been negative about the stadium.
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| Then apologies for that , it just seems like every time we get some good news about the Stadium or the club somebody has a pop , gets very tedious as I say , we are finally in the home stretch ready to start a new era , we need to be upbeat about the future , so again sorry for maligning you
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"Then apologies for that , it just seems like every time we get some good news about the Stadium or the club somebody has a pop , gets very tedious as I say , we are finally in the home stretch ready to start a new era , we need to be upbeat about the future , so again sorry for maligning you
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No worries, it is my nature to be cautious about positivity, but the stadium is one thing I'm 100% behind, I even supported it through claddinggate when most other people were having hissy fits.
The 'Langtree Park' writing on the ground looks awesome. Once the cladding is up it's going to look stellar. I just need to sort out my parking spot. I have no idea where to park. I did think the retail park, but it seems thats off limits.
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| It's a shame in a way that you're getting (or you appear to be getting) a sponsor from day one, as generally, whatever the stadium is called first is the name that sticks.
For instance, most people still call the DW stadium, the JJB. Even though this is the name that is now used on all official documents, in the media and in the press. Similarly, I can't imagine anyone habitually calling the City of Manchester Stadium, "The Etihad" anytime soon.
Therefore, wouldn't it be great if, just for one year or maybe two, the St Helens directors would stop thinking of their wallets and hold off getting a sponsor, giving the stadium a proper name and THEN getting a sponsor in a couple of years. That would give the fans the opportunity to have a proper 'home' name for them to use, but of course the media etc would still be obliged to use the corporate name, thus still getting full sponsorship value from it.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"It's a shame in a way that you're getting (or you appear to be getting) a sponsor from day one, as generally, whatever the stadium is called first is the name that sticks.
For instance, most people still call the DW stadium, the JJB. Even though this is the name that is now used on all official documents, in the media and in the press. Similarly, I can't imagine anyone habitually calling the City of Manchester Stadium, "The Etihad" anytime soon.
Therefore, wouldn't it be great if, just for one year or maybe two, the St Helens directors would stop thinking of their wallets and hold off getting a sponsor, giving the stadium a proper name and THEN getting a sponsor in a couple of years. That would give the fans the opportunity to have a proper 'home' name for them to use, but of course the media etc would still be obliged to use the corporate name, thus still getting full sponsorship value from it.'"
Langtree Park is the name of the site as well, so it would have been no different.
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| Considering the stadium name was always likely to be dictated by sponsorship I think you've got a cracking name tbh. Can't wait for the first game
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| Most Saints fans who have expressed a preference have said its a pretty classy name I havent heard anyone say they didnt like it
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"Most Saints fans who have expressed a preference have said its a pretty classy name I havent heard anyone say they didnt like it'"
I don't particularly like it. It's not causing me to go into rage but it's a pretty nondescript and unimaginative which is a shame. Still it is a minor issue and one that won't impact upon our majesty.
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| Theres always one !!
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| Quote ="J20"Considering the stadium name was always likely to be dictated by sponsorship I think you've got a cracking name tbh. '"
So do I. I think it sounds really classy.
That's if the name we see is all there is to it. There may be something else to come.
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| Quote ="Gruntfuttock"icon_wink.gif Theres always one !!'"
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| I like it. Langtree Park is a name that could stick, depending of course on the financial details to be revealed tomorrow.
I wouldn't be surprised though if this was a short term fallback because we've not managed to get a meaningful deal out of a big company, possibly contra-ing money we owe them for the stadium. Very few throwing sponsorship around when we're about to go into recession again.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I wouldn't be surprised though if this was a short term fallback because we've not managed to get a meaningful deal out of a big company, possibly contra-ing money we owe them for the stadium. Very few throwing sponsorship around when we're about to go into recession again.'"
Typhoo were very happy to throw a two year sponsorship deal around, Hattons a five year deal and that brewery a five year deal so my guess is you're talking out of your anus ma boy!
Meanwhile, back on Planet Positive, I think it would be great for Langtree to sponsor our stadium. What a way to expand their profile. And it would be great for Saints if Langtree were the stadium sponsors as Langtree is a local company and engaging local companies (rightly IMO) appears to be the policy of McManus.
I love McManus Drive. That's just fab.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Typhoo were very happy to throw a two year sponsorship deal around, Hattons a five year deal and that brewery a five year deal so my guess is you're talking out of your anus ma boy! '"
No, clearly not. It'll be interesting to find out how long term the Langtree deal is. The Typhoo and Hattons deals will not be mega amounts. The brewery deal will probably be profitable for Robinsons as they will be taking a huge slice of the takings at the bars in the ground.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, clearly not. It'll be interesting to find out how long term the Langtree deal is. The Typhoo and Hattons deals will not be mega amounts. The brewery deal will probably be profitable for Robinsons as they will be taking a huge slice of the takings at the bars in the ground.'"
Speculation, speculation, speculation.
You haven't a bleedin clue kiddo.
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| Quote ="SomersetSaint"I see the difference lying in the future. Club like Saints, Hull, Leeds, Warrington, Hudds, can use their facilities to genrate considerable amounts of income. Wigoon have very little option available to expand their revenues, other than increasing attendances or shop sales. The off field revenues of a well run club could dwarf whatever the club can generate through the turnstiles at a couple of dozen home game throughout the season.'"
Hull don't own their own ground. (and share with football)
Leeds don't own their own ground.
Warrington don't own 'all' their own ground.
Huddersfield used to own 20% of their ground, but don't own any of it now. (and share with football).
You really could have chosen better examples.
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