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| Taxi for Browny.
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| We are probably the worst team in superleague with the ball. No threat whatsoever.
Fair play to turner tonight, thought he was very lively.
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| Brown doesn't have any answers to the mess we are in.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"O'Brien, Turner, Manu and LMS have gone well so far.'"
This. Turner looked half decent at 6 and with a step like his then he could do well.
Attack is pretty dire, Robes is having to double pump the ball before a receiver is identified. Tough when there is nobody putting their hand up and asking for it.
This is getting lower each week.
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| O'Brien had two try assists with a couple of very nice passes for Wilkin and Jones. He also made some beautiful long and short balls in general play. People knocking him and comparing him to Ashe may want to watch the game back a bit closer.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I'd like to see our partnership going forward as O'Brien and Turner. I think both played well and given a chance to work together we could see some good organisational plays coming out of them. O'Brien very comfortable with ball in hand and Turner better than other options coupled with a good running game. I'm not sure Jones is the answer at centre, his passing is far too erratic for me.'"
I have to completely disagree. Turner should be at centre where he has played well.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I'd like to see our partnership going forward as O'Brien and Turner. I think both played well and given a chance to work together we could see some good organisational plays coming out of them. O'Brien very comfortable with ball in hand and Turner better than other options coupled with a good running game. I'm not sure Jones is the answer at centre, his passing is far too erratic for me.'"
For me, we have to play wilkin in the halves with O'Brian. He needs some experience with him and Wilkin is the best we got. Turner played ok tonight but he's not going to move us around the field as he's a runner, he basically played the stand off role as he plays the centre.
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| Quote ="St pete"I thought he was average but can't knock him, he only been here a week.'"
His passing was far superior to anything Ive seen from Ashe or any other makeshift half we've tried. Hopefully we'll keep him and he'll settle in.
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| I agree about he plays well at but is the balance of the team not better with him at stand off? I guess when Lomax comes back he'll be the running pivot which means Turner can move back to centre.
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| Quote ="St pete"For me, we have to play wilkin in the halves with O'Brian. He needs some experience with him and Wilkin is the best we got. Turner played ok tonight but he's not going to move us around the field as he's a runner, he basically played the stand off role as he plays the centre.'"
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| Talking about Lomax I think if you put him in the team today we could have won against the odds. I counted 2 or 3 occasions when Wellens chimes into the line and died with the ball. In the exact same scenario I think that had that been Lomax there was a good chance he could score, there were gaps outside big players that he would have had the evasiveness to exploit.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"Talking about Lomax I think if you put him in the team today we could have won against the odds. I counted 2 or 3 occasions when Wellens chimes into the line and died with the ball. In the exact same scenario I think that had that been Lomax there was a good chance he could score, there were gaps outside big players that he would have had the evasiveness to exploit.'"
The fear I have is where will we desperately try to wedge Wello in when Lomax goes to fullback.
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| Quote ="St pete"I thought he was average but can't knock him, he only been here a week.'"
Not even that. Only trained for three days.
Why the flock Brown had to change half the team around to facilitate him though is beyond me. We don't stand a chance against the second team in the league when nobody knows who is playing where or what they are doing. Brown is bloody stupid in this respect and is undermining our chances week in, week out.
There can be no excuses this time. We had enough quality out there to at least challenge for the win. But the quality hadn't got a clue what it was supposed to be doing and we were all at sea as a result and that's Brown's responsibility IMO.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"The fear I have is where will we desperately try to wedge Wello in when Lomax goes to fullback.'"
Hopefully we can wedge him somewhere in the stands between Browny and KC.
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| Having to borrrow a player from Warrington just about sums up where we are as a club thesedays.
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| Quote ="No1 Saint"His passing was far superior to anything Ive seen from Ashe or any other makeshift half we've tried. Hopefully we'll keep him and he'll settle in.'"
I agree he did ok, he looks like a halfback and that's something we ain't seen in a saints shirt for a long long time but I feel that fact we getting carried away by few nice passes just shows how far we have gone backward. O'Brian did what any half decent number 7 should be able to do.
I think O'Brian will me much better next week, he will have had another week training and be more settled.
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| We were light years off again today. Bullied up the middle & pedestrian in attack bar our usual ten minutes flurry. Caught at marker again because we haven't the forwards to contain Huddsfield, Brough played in slippers he had that much time.
Until we bring in a front row & two halves weve absolutely no chance. We can bleat about decisions as long as we want but in reality we werent even close.
Our weaknesses are easy to see & were easy to defend against, if I could fast forward to next season Id do it in a heart beat
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| Quote ="theres only one stan wall"Bullied up the middle & pedestrian in attack bar our usual ten minutes flurry. '"
I really do not think we was. This seems to be the stock phrase whenever we lose.
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| I don't think we was bullied in the pack today, we let ourselves down by lacking creativity on their line. I'll have the stats up either tomorrow or Wednesday and I'm fairly sure they'll show quite an even meter count.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I don't think we was bullied in the pack today, we let ourselves down by lacking creativity on their line. I'll have the stats up either tomorrow or Wednesday and I'm fairly sure they'll show quite an even meter count.'"
We was second best in all departments.
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| I thought it was a creditable performance from Saints.
As i thought with Roby in the team the forwards get a lot more go forward due to his distribution and general threat around the ruck.
Our weaknesses were as follows:
Wello at Fullback who was targeted by Brough with his booming kicks. They knew full well that he would only be able to trundle it back and made our forwards return it from deep first half
Percival. Targeted heavily for the second week in a row defensively. I wont blame him for the Brough try though as that was Wilkin being stood up. However ive noted that when teams get on top of him as they have for the last few weeks, his game starts to crumble somewhat.
Half backs looked lost, however both showed bits of promise. Turner scored a decent try and o'brien looks a good passer of the football, cant tackle to save his life though, and saw none of his supposed kicking game.
Best player on the pitch was Manu who looked class. Puletua and Walmsley also had strong games.
What we need though is to go with certain combinations and stick with them.
If Lomax is back next week then he has to go to fullback.
I see a few fools are calling for Browns head
The simple answer is that whoever is in charge they wont have a chance with a team with no half backs of merit. The time to judge Brown is next year when we will have a scrum half and hopefully Lomax playing regularly at fullback.
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| Quote ="St pete"We was second best in all departments.'"
I have no doubt they'll have made more metres but I certainly don't think we was 'bullied', we made a good yardage today.
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| Quote ="Albion"I really do not think we was. This seems to be the stock phrase whenever we lose.'"
I agree with you. I thought we held our own.
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| Quote ="The Chair Maker"The simple answer is that whoever is in charge they wont have a chance with a team with no half backs of merit. The time to judge Brown is next year when we will have a scrum half and hopefully Lomax playing regularly at fullback.'"
Respectfully, that's tosh. A good coach makes the best of what he has. So far, all Brown is doing is putting unnecessary pressure upon our team by constantly changing them around. There was no need for wholesale change today but he made it anyway and so people didn't know their partners, in attack or defence, and that undermined everything we attempted to do. Brown is stupid in this regard but he clearly will not change his ways and so we will continue to slide down the table, needlessly.
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| I believe we made more metres tonight. At least we did in the first half, can't imagine it changed in the second half.
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