I would say that tayban in Bolton will do precast as is prob nearest to site.

I know the will be concrete going to site tomoz around dinner time. It looks like Tarmac topmix will be doing the concrete.

No. Something beginning with 'W'. Really can't remember.

If you think of the name let me know. Il be able to tell you if they have put price in for job.

The brother in law's golf partner owns a very large building firm in Yorkshire, Williams.

Wigan

ok folks , new sunday update pictures

near the cutout for the roundabout, presumably this is going to be the road into the site


showing the cutout on the retail park side of the linkway


and just the normal views of the site

Grutnfuttock, Thanks for the updates I'm in Brisbane till May 9th, first run out in the car, guess where??
Keep up the good work, hope Rogues logs onto this post, he'll be green with envy.
Do you think Mr Mcmanus will let the Piemen play their home games here, When Whelan kicks them out, or, will they doff their cap the Village.

Your welcome mate this is ewhat the thread is all about , people who are out of town and cant see the wonderful things happening, will keep you all updated every week come rain hail or snow (and this is during the summer ! ,well maybe if the snow is not too deep !!

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John you need to correct your sig from Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, so there!!
to
"Saints have never won the 2nd division Title, and neither have Wigan, but we were in the second division long before them"



Have a safe flight home, and we'll have beer or three when you get back, so that we can trade insults face to face.

Dear Rogues, My Sig is absolutely correct , politically or otherwise, so I shall not acceed to your request, (rather belatedly as it is), thank you for calling and enjoy our pictures of our stadium,
We may get a petition together to consider a request for you to play your home fixtures at our new ground when DW gets rid. we're not all bad this side of the lump. I wouldn't like you to have to go to the Village doffing your cap!!!

BJ

A brilliant politicians answer, when are you back

May 9th, if we can find Manchester through the Volcanic Cloud, a late night tonight, Channel 9 are showing Saints and Leeds at midnight QLD time, It's all good, plenty of Stubbies in the fridge.
Thanks for the reply, hope you are at peace with the world, kind regards John B

[iIt's a similar story in St Helens, Merseyside, where Tesco is building a stadium for St Helens rugby league club, but the new superstore and massive car park will dominate, relegating the stadium to round the back of the site.[/i

Doesn't seem very inspiring.13th para.[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may/05/urban-development-tesco-townsSource[/url

To be fair it makes sense , stadium used every 2 weeks for part of the year or a superstore used everyday and mostly 24hrs a day, the store should obviously be at the front

Not really, the stadium should be something to be proud of not hidden. But we'll see how it looks when the build is somewhere near starting.

I'll be surprised if it Doesnt tower over the site

While trawling through the many pages of info about the Stadium site there was one by a Government Dept that looks at Development sites like the UGB, it said that in their view the Council should knock back the plans because the stadium was too important to the area and people of St Helens and should have the most prominant position on the site, but beggers cant be choosers, the Council as we know didnt take their recomendations onboard.

The stadium doesnt have the prominent position from views for people looking from the town centre.

However if coming from other areas then things get a lot more complex.

Certainly the stadium will be far more visible and prominent than most traditional RL stadiums including knowsley road.
Knowsley road in particular is hidden away in a suburban housing estate at the bottom of a hill.
Its essentially hidden until you are right ontop of it. This has never seemed to bother people in the past.

A look at other recent stadium developments, affecting RL clubs and i can only think of Leigh and Hull were the stadium is a central feature.

Take Wigans DW, that stadium is hidden behind a massive retail park, some distance from the main roads into and out of Wigan. Its position is nothing like as prominent as Central Park whose floodlights dominated the town.

Warringtons new stadium is also hidden behind a Tesco. It only really becomes visible when nearing the set of traffic lights built to accomodate access to Tescos.

Huddersfields ground is visible, but is stuck behind an industrial estate on the side of a hill.

Widnes ground is in the same place as its always been and therefore is hard to spot if you dont know there is a stadium there.

Quote ="The Doghead"While trawling through the many pages of info about the Stadium site there was one by a Government Dept that looks at Development sites like the UGB, it said that in their view the Council should knock back the plans because the stadium was too important to the area and people of St Helens and should have the most prominant position on the site, but beggers cant be choosers, the Council as we know didnt take their recomendations onboard.'" www.cabe.org.uk/design-review/st ... by-stadium

Quote ="The Doghead"While trawling through the many pages of info about the Stadium site there was one by a Government Dept that looks at Development sites like the UGB, it said that in their view the Council should knock back the plans because the stadium was too important to the area and people of St Helens and should have the most prominant position on the site, but beggers cant be choosers, the Council as we know didnt take their recomendations onboard.'" www.cabe.org.uk/design-review/st ... by-stadium

The Halliwell Jones is hidden by Tesco if you are viewing from behind Tesco! They are parallel facing the A49.

Who actually cares if it is visible? Function over form.

Its merely something some people like.

As for Wire. Drive down the A49 from the m62 and you cant really see the stadium until your right ontop of it, because its hidden by Tescos and the former Church.

On visiting the site yesterday i noticed a planning notice on a lampost near the stadium.

The planning notice is p/2010/0267 and concerns the developers wanting to be exempt from some of the preconditions before building the stadium. It was posted on 18th March this year The preconditions in question are 17, 18, 22, 23 and 60

These preconditions appear to be around travel and access arrangements to the site.

Its noticable that this request was withdrawn only a few days ago on the 4th May after discussions with planning officials.
I suspect this may in some way explain the delay with appointing a contractor

Langtree would therefore now appear to have to fullfill the original obligations before the contractors can be appointed.

This sentence on one of the letters is i feel pertinant

"The Applicant needs to let the contract for building the Stadium and Store urgently"

Ive had it confirmed, that my suspicions in an earlier post re Planning conditions not being met, are infact true.

There are something like 74 conditions that need to be fulfilled as part of planning approval.

As a result we wont see any stadium being built until the developers get round to satisfying all these conditions.

Examples of submissions required by planning include

Handling of soil resources
Waste management plan
Energy efficiency
Conservation management plan re the bottle shop
Disposal of foul water
Surface water regulation
Relocation of newts
Presence of badgers on site
Eradication of Japanese Knotweed
Tree protection plan
landscaping and planting plan
Closure of access points to site
Car parking contingency plan
Plan for emergency access link
Management of Tesco service yard
Matchday crowd movement plan during store trading hours
Widening of footway at Peasley cross lane
Highway improvement scheme on Linkway East
Construction of site access points
Detailed land stability study
Human health and environment risk assessment
Samples of construction materials
remediation strategy
project risk register

I hope somebody has relocated those newts by the end of the month otherwise nothing is going to happen until the "kids" are big enough to leave the pond.

Can we transfer the badgers, newts and the bottleshop to the bowling green behind the Wagon & Horses. It would stop them knocking the pub down at least.