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| Quote ="So Grose but So Good"I thought the VR could look at any incident since the last play the ball, regardless of whether the ref asks or not.'"
Not in Eddies world.
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| think things have escalated out of proportion.
Cunningham doesn't strike me as a dirty player, tough yes dirty no. he shouldn't have struck out in the manner he did but i'm pretty certain he didn't intend stosic to be injured in the way he seems to have been.
that said i don't think he can feel aggrieved if he receives a ban
as for JD, the incident looked a lot worse than it was, looked like a legal fend initially which because of the transferring of his weight turned into his arm contacting with wellens neck/face. personally dont think it was a foul but at the speed it happened old rubber face may feel he had legitimate complaint about the incident at the time.
it's a tough sport RL and these things will happen
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| JDs fend was not ilegal, he makes first contact with the flat of his hand on Wellens left collarbone area.
The hand then slips over Wellens shoulder and Jds upper arm contacts wellos face.
Watch it in super slo-mo its easy to see what happened.
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"There is a difference between a punch in a fight though and a puch on the ground causing (potentially) serious damage to a player? We'd be calling for life bans if the boot was on the other foot. 5 games IMO.
Oh, and i don't think there was anything wrong with what JD did to Wello either. Fozzard does that every week.'"
5 match ban! Give over.
IMO and I'm being fair, I think it was a pen and nothing more.
It was wrong for KC to punch him and it was a cheap shot but much worse happen every week.
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| Apparently Stostic owed money to KC for the Tarmac & lucky heather he had not paid him for.
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| Quote ="Pugwash"I thought the pratt broke new grounds last night in his allegation that Pryce 'conned' the referee for that last penalty.
I saw the game on SKY and in the replay there was ample evidence of a hand on the ball pulling it at the time it was lost and there is no way Pryce could have known that the referee would see it his way!
Stevo seems to set himself up weekly as the judge, jury and executioner of players and coaches behaviour and I would like to hear him apologise publicly to Leon for last night's remark.
One thing is apparent though, you need a bl**dy goal kicker and I hope Gidley kicked Wellens' backside for wasting two good try scoring chances last night by not passing.
It looks like it will all come down to the Leeds v Saints game now?
Pugwash.'" notice stevo didn't say much about the cheap shot cunningham made on stotic. possibly putting him out for approx 8 weeks with a cracked eye socket. shown himself up badly. should get banned, but won't. by the way good luck against wigan. ![Wink icon_wink.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_wink.gif)
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| Quote ="The Clan"JDs fend was not ilegal, he makes first contact with the flat of his hand on Wellens left collarbone area.
The hand then slips over Wellens shoulder and Jds upper arm contacts wellos face.
Watch it in super slo-mo its easy to see what happened.'"
that in response to me Clan? if so i agree with you i dont think it was a foul, just that i can understand why at full speed wellens may have thought he had a case (incorrectly)
apologies if my post wasn't clearer
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| Quote ="St. Chunter"that in response to me Clan? if so i agree with you i dont think it was a foul, just that i can understand why at full speed wellens may have thought he had a case (incorrectly)
apologies if my post wasn't clearer'"
No, was just supporting your view of the incident.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Serves him right really for fuc*ing about at the play the ball all game. Was constantly having second goes at the Saints players. Keiron was gunning for him and rightyly so. You mess with the king, you end up comming off second best! Been the same for the last 14 years.'"
It seems most Saints fans can agree/disagree with some knowledge of the game, added to a little common sense.
If the bits in bold are true then it would have happened like two men stood toe to toe, it did not so its a cheap shot.
I for one will let the RFL deal with this and any other issues during the game.
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| Quote ="Ashmeister"Serves him right really for fuc*ing about at the play the ball all game. Was constantly having second goes at the Saints players. Keiron was gunning for him and rightyly so. You mess with the king, you end up comming off second best! Been the same for the last 14 years.'"
Came off 2nd best? I really don't class a cheap shot asa way to come out on top. His would have fell out had Stosic got up and asked him to do it again.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"
The 2nd Grix try where Obst kicked it through and it pin balled about was a knock on by Obst even though it went nowhere his hands according to him
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Stevo was right, it was clearly not a knock on.
As for the Pryce thing, it was obvious Korki put his hand in.
Any way the best team won on the night ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Quote ="The Clan"JDs fend was not ilegal, he makes first contact with the flat of his hand on Wellens left collarbone area.
The hand then slips over Wellens shoulder and Jds upper arm contacts wellos face.
Watch it in super slo-mo its easy to see what happened.'"
I've just watched it again and still do not agree with your assessment.
It was an obvious foul, just fortunate for wakey that the ref didn't see it.
Wello from his immediate and subsequent reaction obviously believed it was a foul and he is not known for lying / cheating.
If you look at "JD's" face while the replay was being shown, he does look rather sheepish/guilty and he does have form for that sort of thing.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"I suggest you get in the real world.
Answer the question --- If ref asks VR to check for onside/offside only -- will the VR ignore the fact that the ball wasnt grounded - simply because the ref didnt ask him to check it?'"
Yes - because that is the rules!
You can't suggest a line of argument that goes - "Well its obvious that x happened..."
The rules are clear - the video ref can only adjudge on what he is asked to by the ref. Why do you think the ref tells him what to check?
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"
I for one will let the RFL deal with this and any other issues during the game.'"
That's good of you, do you have any other choice?
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I've just watched it again and still do not agree with your assessment.
It was an obvious foul, just fortunate for wakey that the ref didn't see it.
Wello from his immediate and subsequent reaction obviously believed it was a foul and he is not known for lying / cheating.
If you look at "JD's" face while the replay was being shown, he does look rather sheepish/guilty and =redhe does have form for that sort of thing.'"
When exactly??
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Yeah, but he's obviously ducked into it
FWIW, I don't think Demetriou will be punished. He may be cited and get a warning letter but that will be the extent of it.
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Yeah, but he's obviously ducked into it
FWIW, I don't think Demetriou will be punished. He may be cited and get a warning letter but that will be the extent of it.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"Yeah, but he's obviously ducked into it
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FWIW, I don't think Demetriou will be punished. He may be cited and get a warning letter but that will be the extent of it.'"
![Laughing icon_lol.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_lol.gif) JD wil get a warning and KC will get 2 games, but we'll see.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I've just watched it again and still do not agree with your assessment.
It was an obvious foul, just fortunate for wakey that the ref didn't see it.
Wello from his immediate and subsequent reaction obviously believed it was a foul and he is not known for lying / cheating.
If you look at "JD's" face while the replay was being shown, he does look rather sheepish/guilty and he does have form for that sort of thing.'"
The video ref saw it at least 6 times and dissagreed with you.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"Yes - because that is the rules!
You can't suggest a line of argument that goes - "Well its obvious that x happened..."
The rules are clear - the video ref can only adjudge on what he is asked to by the ref. Why do you think the ref tells him what to check?'"
Have you an upto date link to a copy of the rules??
Mines from 2004 and makes no reference to what the video ref can judge on.
How do you know what Halibut asked him to check??
The BBC seem to think he checked the JD fend off.
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| Quote ="saint at wire"I've just watched it again and still do not agree with your assessment.
=redIt was an obvious foul, just fortunate for wakey that the ref didn't see it.
Wello from his immediate and subsequent reaction obviously believed it was a foul and he is not known for lying / cheating.
If you look at "JD's" face while the replay was being shown, he does look rather sheepish/guilty and he does have form for that sort of thing.'"
Not quite that obvious as it turns out.
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| Quote ="The Clan"The video ref saw it at least 6 times and dissagreed with you.'"
Not sure the video ref even looked at it as he was not asked to.
The Sky guys (with the benefit of slo-mo) were unanimous that JD fouled Wello.
However, their opinions, like mine and yours don't change the scoreline.
Just because the ref didn't see it it doesn't mean you are right.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"icon_lol.gif JD wil get a warning and KC will get 2 games, but we'll see.'"
yes we will see indeed K.C. warned for a bitch slap, but a great piece of acting by the pussy player i thought he'd been shot , players play act like that in soccer ! we dont want to see it in our game ![Rolling Eyes icon_rolleyes.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_rolleyes.gif)
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